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Novell and Ximian A demonstration of the next release of Novell's Linux for desktops drew cheers and applause Wednesday, although the final version of the software is not expected for some months. Nat Friedman, the company's vice president of Linux desktop engineering, showed Novell Linux Desktop 10 playing videos and MP3 music files, and exchanging music and photos with an iPod and a digital camera, in a keynote presentation at the Solutions Linux conference and trade show on the outskirts of Paris.
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Videos, MP3s?
by Tom K on Wed 1st Feb 2006 20:20 UTC
Tom K
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2005-07-06

Wow, he played videos and MP3s?! Say it isn't so!

Back up there cowboy. This is supposed to be an accomplishment? What am I missing, exactly?

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RE: Videos, MP3s?
by Ringheims Auto on Wed 1st Feb 2006 20:27 in reply to "Videos, MP3s?"
Ringheims Auto Member since:
2005-07-23

Back up there cowboy. This is supposed to be an accomplishment? What am I missing, exactly?

Like he says in the article:
"Now we have a legal way to do this for free that's open source"

Edited 2006-02-01 20:28

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RE[2]: Videos, MP3s?
by segedunum on Wed 1st Feb 2006 20:45 in reply to "RE: Videos, MP3s?"
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2005-07-06

Like he says in the article:
"Now we have a legal way to do this for free that's open source"


A legal way of doing this for free that is open source would be to get the patent overturned - and people are simply assuming that this patent implies something legally binding just because other companies have paid up.

You get some short-term joy out of this, but in the medium to long-term it just creates more and more problems for open source software. You'll get every tom, dick and harry patenting something to make companies like Novell and others license something for the wider community.

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RE: Videos, MP3s?
by segedunum on Wed 1st Feb 2006 20:34 in reply to "Videos, MP3s?"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

Wow, he played videos and MP3s?! Say it isn't so!

Back up there cowboy. This is supposed to be an accomplishment? What am I missing, exactly?


Extremely sadly, and with some regret, I have to agree with you. Playing MP3s, viewing pictures and doing something, not completely special, but pre-planned with them - all using the next version of a distribution that isn't selling and that absolutely no one outside of Novell uses?! Yer, whatever. None of that stuff actually matters as well, just to make things worse.

I know there are some people with memories like goldfishes who keep coming back for more over many years to lap up some eye candy and hype that will never amount to anything, but I'm just not one of them. I am singularly, and totally, unimpressed with some peoples' "vision" for desktop Linux. Surely by now they, and others, would have realised that it just isn't going to work.

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RE[2]: Videos, MP3s?
by leos on Wed 1st Feb 2006 20:53 in reply to "RE: Videos, MP3s?"
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2005-09-21

I agree that what they demoed isn't anything to be excited about, but I don't think that the linux desktop vision (if that even exists) is not good. Having played with the Vista betas, I'm sure hoping that the linux desktop goes in the opposite direction.

I am singularly, and totally, unimpressed with some peoples' "vision" for desktop Linux.

What is your vision for desktop Linux?

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RE[2]: Videos, MP3s?
by abraxas on Thu 2nd Feb 2006 02:02 in reply to "RE: Videos, MP3s?"
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2005-07-07

Extremely sadly, and with some regret, I have to agree with you. Playing MP3s, viewing pictures and doing something, not completely special, but pre-planned with them - all using the next version of a distribution that isn't selling and that absolutely no one outside of Novell uses?!

I can only wonder why you wouldn't think this is a good thing. One of the biggest complaints about Linux on the desktop was the inability to do just these types of things. Sure they seem trivial but it is one less obstacle in the way of acceptance on the desktop. If you haven't noticed Linux has been gaining popularity on the desktop for years now. I'm glad joe user can finally do things like this. After all computers have become more and more about media like music, movies, and pictures, in recent years. This along with the development of XGL will hopefully put Linux on par (and even surpass in some areas) Windows and OSX.

I guess it's just kinda funny that when Apple allows you to do all these things in such an easy way people rave but when Linux does it it is unimpressive.

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RE: Videos, MP3s?
by MattK on Wed 1st Feb 2006 20:57 in reply to "Videos, MP3s?"
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2005-11-14

his is supposed to be an accomplishment? What am I missing, exactly?

Showing your ignorance? As is says in the article, if you had read it, Linux has not been able to play MP3s out of the box for legal reasons. Novell has developed their own MP3 player under some special kind of open source license. This is a good thing. Interopability is a good thing, and this appears to be what Novell is working on.

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RE[2]: Videos, MP3s?
by AdamW on Wed 1st Feb 2006 23:19 in reply to "RE: Videos, MP3s?"
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2005-07-06

We've been playing MP3 out of the box in Mandriva for at least four years now.

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RE: Videos, MP3s?
by somebody on Wed 1st Feb 2006 21:22 in reply to "Videos, MP3s?"
somebody Member since:
2005-07-07

What am I missing, exactly?

Well,... the point where you actualy read the article before spewing your usual nonsense.

Explanation from RTFA
Legal playing of MP3s out of the box.

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RE[2]: Videos, MP3s?
by segedunum on Wed 1st Feb 2006 21:24 in reply to "RE: Videos, MP3s?"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

Legal playing of MP3s out of the box.

Like the original poster said - wow - as difficult as that might be to take. Many other systems can play MP3s out of the box.

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