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Novell and Ximian A demonstration of the next release of Novell's Linux for desktops drew cheers and applause Wednesday, although the final version of the software is not expected for some months. Nat Friedman, the company's vice president of Linux desktop engineering, showed Novell Linux Desktop 10 playing videos and MP3 music files, and exchanging music and photos with an iPod and a digital camera, in a keynote presentation at the Solutions Linux conference and trade show on the outskirts of Paris.
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RE[3]: Videos, MP3s?
by segedunum on Wed 1st Feb 2006 21:07 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Videos, MP3s?"
segedunum
Member since:
2005-07-06

What is your vision for desktop Linux?

Not this ;-). Dan Kegel has outlined an absolute tip of the iceberg as to what's wrong, and forking out for dodgy MP3 patent licenses, copying stuff to an iPod and copying pictures to a web site doesn't cover any of it.

It would simply take too long to explain, because it involves ignoring the desktop for a while and concentrating on trying to cement open source software's place on the server-side of things. And no, that hasn't happened. Want to know why people feel there should be a drop-in, totally compatible replacement for Exchange and people want desktop Linux to fit into an Active Directory network? There's your problem. You then build that infrastructure up to something usable that will make people ignore Windows Server, and that gives you the right open backdrop for developing an open source desktop and the right infrastructure to support it.

Boring I know, and not as exciting as playing a few MP3s, but there it is.

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v RE[4]: Videos, MP3s?
by Mitarai on Wed 1st Feb 2006 21:09 in reply to "RE[3]: Videos, MP3s?"
RE[5]: Videos, MP3s?
by segedunum on Wed 1st Feb 2006 21:15 in reply to "RE[4]: Videos, MP3s?"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

In other words, you have no idea.

For someone who has no clue what the topic of the article and the discussion is, and tries to score cheap points over things he knows zilch about that's pretty amazing. Perhaps you should try reading what someone has actually written:

because it involves ignoring the desktop for a while and concentrating on trying to cement open source software's place on the server-side of things. And no, that hasn't happened. Want to know why people feel there should be a drop-in, totally compatible replacement for Exchange and people want desktop Linux to fit into an Active Directory network? There's your problem. You then build that infrastructure up to something usable that will make people ignore Windows Server, and that gives you the right open backdrop for developing an open source desktop and the right infrastructure to support it.

You're not going to understand what any of that means, obviously, because neither does anyone else or anyone at Novell. You're in good company there.

Edited 2006-02-01 21:20

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RE[4]: Videos, MP3s?
by leos on Wed 1st Feb 2006 21:23 in reply to "RE[3]: Videos, MP3s?"
leos Member since:
2005-09-21

I usually agree with you, but this is just silly.

It would simply take too long to explain, because it involves ignoring the desktop for a while and concentrating on trying to cement open source software's place on the server-side of things.

Your vision for desktop linux is ignoring it?
This is the classic mistake of trying to allocate "resources" in the OSS community like you would in a company. Linux desktop developers are not linux server developers. If you stop them from developing linux desktop applications, then they wont develop anything at all, or develop applications for Windows or OSX.

Linux on the server is progressing, completely independant of Linux on the desktop. Sure, maybe right now it is not ideal, because people are having trouble running Linux desktops in a windows server environment, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to interoperate.

Throwing up our hands and saying "well screw this, let's just wait until we have total server domination and can only communicate with open protocols" is completely silly.

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RE[4]: Videos, MP3s?
by subterrific on Wed 1st Feb 2006 21:38 in reply to "RE[3]: Videos, MP3s?"
subterrific Member since:
2005-07-10

There are people working on this angle too, with much support coming from Novell, take a look at Hula [1] and evolution-exchange.

http://www.hula-project.org

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