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Novell and Ximian A demonstration of the next release of Novell's Linux for desktops drew cheers and applause Wednesday, although the final version of the software is not expected for some months. Nat Friedman, the company's vice president of Linux desktop engineering, showed Novell Linux Desktop 10 playing videos and MP3 music files, and exchanging music and photos with an iPod and a digital camera, in a keynote presentation at the Solutions Linux conference and trade show on the outskirts of Paris.
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RE[3]: Videos, MP3s?
by segedunum on Wed 1st Feb 2006 22:15 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Videos, MP3s?"
segedunum
Member since:
2005-07-06

linspire has offered mp3 as well as wmv for some time now.

I'm not sure how Linspire helping Microsoft to bolster wider support for their own proprietary formats is going to help anyone........

but one would expect Novell as an entity to know. i wonder if Nat was misquoted or if he's just unaware ...

You're kidding? No one else is doing anything apart from Novell ;-).

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RE[4]: Videos, MP3s?
by superstoned on Thu 2nd Feb 2006 09:58 in reply to "RE[3]: Videos, MP3s?"
superstoned Member since:
2005-07-07

i don't think novell is to blame, its more Nat i guess. notice you always read stuff like "The Linux user environment has ..." and stuff like that, while they're talking about gnome. gnome is not A desktop environment for linux, and GTK is not A graphical linux toolkit, no.... gnome is THE (one and only) desktop environment, idem dito GTK is THE graphical toolkit for linux.

now i wouldn't say that if i where a gnome developer, or writing an announcement for gnome - its most likely used by less users than 'the other DE', and it has a minority of FOSS developers (yes, most gnome dev's are be payed for their work, and KDE is done by volunteers).

anyway, this might not be to blame on the gnomes at all - the development of Gnome is mostly steered by Red Hat and Novell - money money money. so its mostly big $$ corporate PR talk coming from official gnome announcements, generally speaking. i think gnome (at least its users) would be better of without Red Hat and Novell...

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RE[5]: Videos, MP3s?
by segedunum on Thu 2nd Feb 2006 11:12 in reply to "RE[4]: Videos, MP3s?"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

i don't think novell is to blame, its more Nat i guess. notice you always read stuff like "The Linux user environment has ..." and stuff like that, while they're talking about gnome. gnome is not A desktop environment for linux, and GTK is not A graphical linux toolkit, no.... gnome is THE (one and only) desktop environment

Yer. That's the big problem I have with all of this - it's been going on for years and people still swallow it. It wouldn't be so bad if things were actually moving forwards and the reality matched the hype on occasion, but that's just not happening. It's extremely tiring and doesn't do desktop Linux or the cause of the open source desktop any good really. It's just soundbites. I find it amusing that they're doing all of this to try and convince their own employees of Linux and Gnome as a desktop...... :-).

I mean, KDE has a truly great app in Digikam, a truly great app in Amarok and has had an iPod slave for some time. Those are facts. What are people supposed to do? Have somebody from the Suse side of the company working more on KDE swing from the chandeliers about it?

so its mostly big $$ corporate PR talk coming from official gnome announcements, generally speaking.

Well this mythical big $$ investment and PR talk has got them a long way......

i think gnome (at least its users) would be better of without Red Hat and Novell...

So do I. Make it a community project and no agenda - just be creative.

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RE[5]: Videos, MP3s?
by thebluesgnr on Thu 2nd Feb 2006 14:39 in reply to "RE[4]: Videos, MP3s?"
thebluesgnr Member since:
2005-11-14

So your problem with GNOME is their announcements and press releases? Are you kidding me?

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RE[6]: Videos, MP3s?
by SEJeff on Thu 2nd Feb 2006 15:30 in reply to "RE[4]: Videos, MP3s?"
SEJeff Member since:
2005-11-05

Don't forget SUN... Most of the first HIG and ally stuff in earlier gnome was done by SUN. Also, If you look at the gnome system administration guide and much of the other documentation, you will notice it was initially written or is maintained by SUN. The Java Desktop System is a very nice rebranded gnome desktop. Thanks to SUN making JDS nice, it made gnome nice.

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