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Novell and Ximian A demonstration of the next release of Novell's Linux for desktops drew cheers and applause Wednesday, although the final version of the software is not expected for some months. Nat Friedman, the company's vice president of Linux desktop engineering, showed Novell Linux Desktop 10 playing videos and MP3 music files, and exchanging music and photos with an iPod and a digital camera, in a keynote presentation at the Solutions Linux conference and trade show on the outskirts of Paris.
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RE[2]: Novell Shows Off
by rayiner on Thu 2nd Feb 2006 00:14 UTC in reply to "RE: Novell Shows Off"
rayiner
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2005-07-06

It's a myth that Linux-haters are trying to spread. They act as if Linux has "failed" on the desktop, when in reality its market share growth is outpacing everything else. HP by itself sells about 1m Linux desktops every year, about 1/4 of Apple's total 2005 sales (and Apple had a great year in 2005).

I think Americans in general underestimate the success Linux has had on the desktop, for a number of reasons. First, they probably don't see the hundreds of thousands of Linux desktops at work in universities, engineering firms, etc. Second, a huge percentage of Linux desktop sales are in Europe, Asia, and Latin America. Of HP's 1m Linux desktops per year, only 15% are sold within the United States. Meanwhile, they see Apple's healthy US sales, and assume that the success translates to all other markets. Of course, Apple's sales outside the US are much lower than they are inside the US. Indeed, Apple sells far fewer machines in Europe than in the United States, even though Europe is a bigger overall market for PCs. Its sales in Asia (including Japan), the Middle East, and Africa are by comparison tiny.

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RE[3]: Novell Shows Off
by makfu on Thu 2nd Feb 2006 00:20 in reply to "RE[2]: Novell Shows Off"
makfu Member since:
2005-12-18


HP by itself sells about 1m Linux desktops every year


Source please?

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RE[4]: Novell Shows Off
by rayiner on Thu 2nd Feb 2006 00:21 in reply to "RE[3]: Novell Shows Off"
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2005-07-06
RE[3]: Novell Shows Off
by ronaldst on Thu 2nd Feb 2006 01:04 in reply to "RE[2]: Novell Shows Off"
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2005-06-29

When Linux gets past Windows 95 in functionality and usability, THEN linux will be ok for desktop. Other than that it's just another case of pure drivel from the OSS "SOS" fanatics.

Linux on the desktop isn't even close to being there.

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RE[4]: Novell Shows Off
by asupcb on Thu 2nd Feb 2006 02:01 in reply to "RE[3]: Novell Shows Off"
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2005-11-10

What functionality does Win 95 have that a modern Linux desktop doesn't have? By modern Linux desktop I am thinking Knoppix 4.0.2 Live CD which uses KDE 3.4.x which is the last version of desktop linux I have used.
I admit even a year ago Linux was lacking in some functionality but now outside of universal software installation I can't think of anything that Win 95 is better at than KDE 3.4.x. I don't know about GNOME so if you use it as an example I will simply have to take your word for it.

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RE[4]: Novell Shows Off
by DeadFishMan on Thu 2nd Feb 2006 02:44 in reply to "RE[3]: Novell Shows Off"
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2006-01-09

When Linux gets past Windows 95 in functionality and usability, THEN linux will be ok for desktop. Other than that it's just another case of pure drivel from the OSS "SOS" fanatics.

Linux on the desktop isn't even close to being there.


I was trying to avoid getting into useless discussions but I strongly disagree with you. Right now, Linux lacks the application pool available to Windows, but when it comes to the desktop, KDE wipes the floor with Windows. Explorer is not even near close KDE comparing features and functionality.

Regarding my usage, Linux/KDE already offer replacements that are better or at least on par with their Windows counterparts: Apollon, KTorrent, K3B, Amarok, Kxmame, Konqueror, Kmail, KGet, Konversation, ZSNES, Gngeo and tons more... Thatīs not to mention bash and the other usual suspects that years ahead anything that Windows has to offer.

Yes, there is some caveats. Everybody knows them. Until the hardware manufacturers and ISVs donīt start target Linux for their products, things will be a bit harsh.

But I canīt even start to imagine how you got the conclusion that Windows 95 is anywhere close to functionality of a current Linux distro. Seriously! I would say that Windows XP canīt hold a candle next to KDE (IMHO). Iīm looking forward to see what Vista will bring to the table, but XP... Pff! Puhleeeeze!

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RE[4]: Novell Shows Off
by hraq on Thu 2nd Feb 2006 11:18 in reply to "RE[3]: Novell Shows Off"
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2005-07-06

"When Linux gets past Windows 95 in functionality and usability, THEN linux will be ok for desktop"

Windows 95 was not a desktop OS; It was a CRASH BOX OS rather, and I was not happy using that crappy OS. That crashability of Windows 9x led me to freeze my usage and purchase of software for windows. It felt like donating a lung for a comatose patient. I will accept a software crash but I will not accept OS (kernel+GUI) crash.

Linux now passed windows 2000 long time ago, but what It didn't pass is the great 3rd party software developed by Microsoft, Adobe, Macromedia, discreet,...and the list is so long.
Now if linux can persuade big SOFTWARE and HARDWARE parties to support linux with their products, then will will witness a world filled up with linux and linux only.

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