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Novell and Ximian A demonstration of the next release of Novell's Linux for desktops drew cheers and applause Wednesday, although the final version of the software is not expected for some months. Nat Friedman, the company's vice president of Linux desktop engineering, showed Novell Linux Desktop 10 playing videos and MP3 music files, and exchanging music and photos with an iPod and a digital camera, in a keynote presentation at the Solutions Linux conference and trade show on the outskirts of Paris.
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RE[2]: Videos, MP3s?
by abraxas on Thu 2nd Feb 2006 02:02 UTC in reply to "RE: Videos, MP3s?"
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2005-07-07

Extremely sadly, and with some regret, I have to agree with you. Playing MP3s, viewing pictures and doing something, not completely special, but pre-planned with them - all using the next version of a distribution that isn't selling and that absolutely no one outside of Novell uses?!

I can only wonder why you wouldn't think this is a good thing. One of the biggest complaints about Linux on the desktop was the inability to do just these types of things. Sure they seem trivial but it is one less obstacle in the way of acceptance on the desktop. If you haven't noticed Linux has been gaining popularity on the desktop for years now. I'm glad joe user can finally do things like this. After all computers have become more and more about media like music, movies, and pictures, in recent years. This along with the development of XGL will hopefully put Linux on par (and even surpass in some areas) Windows and OSX.

I guess it's just kinda funny that when Apple allows you to do all these things in such an easy way people rave but when Linux does it it is unimpressive.

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RE[3]: Videos, MP3s?
by segedunum on Thu 2nd Feb 2006 09:51 in reply to "RE[2]: Videos, MP3s?"
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2005-07-06

One of the biggest complaints about Linux on the desktop was the inability to do just these types of things.

I've been able to do those things on a Linux distribution for years, and it's only recently that it has suddenly become a problem. What's new now?

Basically what's happened is that in trying to get people to move internally to the NLD Novell have encountered problems with a lot of people using their computers for things that, strictly speaking, they shouldn't be doing. Namely, plugging their iPod in, copying MP3s, doing things with their photo collection and playing with eye candy in the form of wibbly, wobbly windows. Perhaps they're trying desperately to convince people that desktop Linux will work for them, trying to convince them to actually use it and/or get them to use Gnome. Who knows?

It's nice that people can do those things, but considering what the NLD is actually supposed to do and what it's aimed for as a product this demonstration seems somewhat out of sync.

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RE[4]: Videos, MP3s?
by abraxas on Fri 3rd Feb 2006 16:14 in reply to "RE[2]: Videos, MP3s?"
abraxas Member since:
2005-07-07

I've been able to do those things on a Linux distribution for years, and it's only recently that it has suddenly become a problem. What's new now?


You're not joe user now are you, and I'm sure doing these types of things required some setup in the past. I think you're missing the point.


Basically what's happened is that in trying to get people to move internally to the NLD Novell have encountered problems with a lot of people using their computers for things that, strictly speaking, they shouldn't be doing. Namely, plugging their iPod in, copying MP3s, doing things with their photo collection and playing with eye candy in the form of wibbly, wobbly windows.


You're joking right?

It's nice that people can do those things, but considering what the NLD is actually supposed to do and what it's aimed for as a product this demonstration seems somewhat out of sync.

So tell me then, what are they aiming for?

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RE[5]: Videos, MP3s?
by Morty on Fri 3rd Feb 2006 16:56 in reply to "RE[4]: Videos, MP3s?"
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2005-07-06

>I've been able to do those things on a Linux distribution for years, and it's only recently that it has
>suddenly become a problem. What's new now?

You're not joe user now are you, and I'm sure doing these types of things required some setup in the past. I think you're missing the point.


No he's not missing the point, as it used to work out of the box before Novell bought Suse. And it works out of the box in Mandriva and several other distributions.

>Basically what's happened is that in trying to get people to move internally to the NLD Novell have
>encountered problems with a lot of people using their computers for things that, strictly speaking, they
>shouldn't be doing. Namely, plugging their iPod in, copying MP3s, doing things with their photo collection
>and playing with eye candy in the form of wibbly, wobbly windows.

You're joking right?


No again, I think you miss the major point of what he says. That is internal dektop migration at novell, and usage of NLD. If you where a manager at Novell would you have you have your employees do that stuff on company time?

>It's nice that people can do those things, but considering
>what the NLD is actually supposed to do and what it's aimed for as a product this demonstration seems
>somewhat out of sync.

So tell me then, what are they aiming for?


From Novells pages: "Novell Linux Desktop is a desktop operating system and office-productivity environment that enables businesses to use Linux and open source with confidence." That alone or thogether with Novells talk about NLD being their enterprise ready desktop solution.

So tell us, how does playing with iPods, MP3s, photo collections and eye candy help increase office-productivity and give any enterprise customer confidence in NLD meeting their needs?

Edited 2006-02-03 16:59

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