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Novell and Ximian A demonstration of the next release of Novell's Linux for desktops drew cheers and applause Wednesday, although the final version of the software is not expected for some months. Nat Friedman, the company's vice president of Linux desktop engineering, showed Novell Linux Desktop 10 playing videos and MP3 music files, and exchanging music and photos with an iPod and a digital camera, in a keynote presentation at the Solutions Linux conference and trade show on the outskirts of Paris.
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RE[4]: segedenum
by Lumbergh on Thu 2nd Feb 2006 20:11 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: segedenum"
Lumbergh
Member since:
2005-06-29

for an outside observer (i'm not actively involved in gnome) it looks like all this money is poured into gnome, while it barely can keep up with KDE - would it not be far more efficient to put money on KDE? also considdering Red Hat is and has been throwing money on gnome, too - it would set Novell apart from the competition. and many ex-windows users seem to prefer KDE anyway...

just on technical merits, KDE seems ahead - isn't it better to build on stone than on sand?

i might be mistaken, but it looks like KDE 4 is gonna leave gnome far far behind anyway, why not go for the winning team?


Uhmm..because Trolltech own Qt, like has been discussed a thousands times before.

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RE[5]: segedenum
by superstoned on Thu 2nd Feb 2006 20:18 in reply to "RE[4]: segedenum"
superstoned Member since:
2005-07-07

do your homework - if you want free software for the freedom, you prefer Qt cuz it is GPL (and if you want to create proprietary software with it, you have to pay). and if you're a company, you rather pay for a good tool + support.

anyway, this has indeed been discussed, but after 1998 new things have happened. i think its time for you to read up since then.

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RE[6]: segedenum
by Mitarai on Thu 2nd Feb 2006 20:33 in reply to "RE[5]: segedenum"
Mitarai Member since:
2005-07-28

do your homework - if you want free software for the freedom, you prefer Qt cuz it is GPL (and if you want to create proprietary software with it, you have to pay). and if you're a company, you rather pay for a good tool + support.

Maybe Novell doesn't want to put that limitant to their customers, do the math.

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RE[6]: segedenum
by Lumbergh on Fri 3rd Feb 2006 11:21 in reply to "RE[5]: segedenum"
Lumbergh Member since:
2005-06-29

do your homework - if you want free software for the freedom, you prefer Qt cuz it is GPL (and if you want to create proprietary software with it, you have to pay). and if you're a company, you rather pay for a good tool + support.

Do your homework, it's about lowering barriers to entry and not being held hostage to the pricing whims of Trolltech. But let's see, Microsoft's standalone IDEs are now all free (including for commercial use), OSX gives away their developer tools for free without any strings attached, gtk+ doesn't have strings attached. I can't even name another toolkit that charges for non-GPL compatible use.

But yeah, KDE wasn't thinking when they chose their toolkit and so Novell, RedHat, and Sun all chose Gnome ( a technically inferior) desktop tech.

Once again, stupid decisions made by open source developers are another reason for the linux desktop being still stuck in low single digit numbers.

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RE[5]: segedenum
by Mitarai on Thu 2nd Feb 2006 20:32 in reply to "RE[4]: segedenum"
Mitarai Member since:
2005-07-28

Uhmm..because Trolltech own Qt, like has been discussed a thousands times before.

I never had that problem with GTK or even Microsoft, I can do it for free.

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RE[6]: segedenum
by teprrr on Thu 2nd Feb 2006 21:33 in reply to "RE[5]: segedenum"
teprrr Member since:
2005-07-06

Oh, could you please tell where to get Windows for free? And the development stuff and support and everything... I'm sure people would appreaciate your information about this, though I don't have a need for that stuff yet, but it'd be nice to know for the future.

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