Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 2nd Feb 2006 21:15 UTC
GNU, GPL, Open Source Linus Torvalds, father of the Linux kernel, has fleshed out his unhappiness with GPLv3 in three recent posts on the Linux Kernel Mailing List. Torvalds previously stated that the kernel will remain under the licensing terms of GPLv2. Yesterday, Torvalds offered his opinion as to where the battle over DRM should take place.
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Linus gets it
by paul.michael.bauer on Thu 2nd Feb 2006 22:18 UTC
paul.michael.bauer
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2005-07-06

It is not right to litigate (via GPLv3 sofware & courts) an anti-DRM political philosophy.

We are software developers.
We don't create content.
We don't have a dog in this race.

To eradicate DRM:

1) Compete in the marketplace. Create 'open' content to challenge 'closed' content.
2) Vote.

Edited 2006-02-02 22:19

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RE: Linus gets it
by Wes Felter on Thu 2nd Feb 2006 22:34 in reply to "Linus gets it"
Wes Felter Member since:
2005-11-15

What about people who buy content (i.e. just about all of us)? Don't customers have an interest in this situation?

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RE[2]: Linus gets it
by halfmanhalfamazing on Fri 3rd Feb 2006 00:45 in reply to "RE: Linus gets it"
halfmanhalfamazing Member since:
2005-07-23

----------What about people who buy content (i.e. just about all of us)?------------

What about them? Haven't you noticed how hollywood's and the music industry's numbers are down?

If you listen to people like Dr Dre(a guy I used to respect) and Metallica, we're all a bunch of thieves and they are absolutely determined to smite our evil ways.

------------Don't customers have an interest in this situation?-------------

Absolutely. I've noticed how many companies who are implementing DRM are doing it in a way to where it seems to "creep in" the marketspace, rather than all of a sudden.

It'd be a good idea if you do what I do. I've always got a copy of knoppix with me for easy access/giveaway. My main goal is to get people to use their second/older machine as a linux box.

I've had great success at this while focusing in on how linux increases productivity.

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RE: Linus gets it
by halfmanhalfamazing on Fri 3rd Feb 2006 00:42 in reply to "Linus gets it"
halfmanhalfamazing Member since:
2005-07-23

Agreed. This is part of why Linus has been viewed as much more of a leader in all of this than Stallman has.

Stallman is a whackjob. Every time he speaks it's diarrhea of the mouth. Stallman's ideology is one of the biggest roadblocks to both Linux on the desktop, and OSS on the desktop. And when it's seemingly that we've come across one roadblock, Stallman erects another one.

Linus looks at all of this from a pragmatic approach, from a productivity approach. From a realistic approach.

You said: -----To eradicate DRM:

1) Compete in the marketplace. Create 'open' content to challenge 'closed' content.-----------

Bra-friggen-vo. It seems that Linus grasps the market concept. Make a better product and show people why linux is better. That's how we've made it so far.

Stallman just wants to ram it down your throat.

Edited 2006-02-03 00:51

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Here's what I mean
by halfmanhalfamazing on Fri 3rd Feb 2006 11:57 in reply to "RE: Linus gets it"
halfmanhalfamazing Member since:
2005-07-23

http://au.sys-con.com/read/34189.htm

-----------------Richard Stallman: The Free Software Movement *Is* Politics--------------

Heh, that's all you need to see.

Stallman has zero interest in making better software. He just wants to win some ideological fight, and for some odd reason thinks he can ram it and people will somehow be ok with that.

"I'm louder than you, so obviously I'm right." Sorry Richie, that doesn't work either.

What he's not realizing is that by making the better software, the people will come. He's gonna win this fight at the keyboard, not at the microphone. But he's not at his keyboard coding. So....................

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RE: Linus gets it
by archiesteel on Fri 3rd Feb 2006 16:08 in reply to "Linus gets it"
archiesteel Member since:
2005-07-02

To eradicate DRM:

1) Compete in the marketplace. Create 'open' content to challenge 'closed' content.
2) Vote.


Actually, there is something else that consumer can use to fight DRM: litigation through class-action lawsuits. Many of the DRM strategies put forth by the MPAA and the RIAA go against the constitutional rights of Fair Use.

I do agree that 2) (voting) is important, unfortunately industry lobbies are too powerful in the States, and as such voting has very little effect (i.e. they give money to both parties).

As for 1), well, it is VERY expensive to make movies, it's not like the IT business where a good idea and some VC will help you with your start-up. The market is quite hard to get into.

So, all in all, litigation is probably the best way to break DRM...

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RE[2]: Linus gets it
by archiesteel on Fri 3rd Feb 2006 17:11 in reply to "RE: Linus gets it"
archiesteel Member since:
2005-07-02

Libraries may become an unlikely ally in the fight against DRM:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4675280.stm

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RE[2]: Linus gets it
by halfmanhalfamazing on Sat 4th Feb 2006 03:34 in reply to "RE: Linus gets it"
halfmanhalfamazing Member since:
2005-07-23

----------Actually, there is something else that consumer can use to fight DRM: litigation through class-action lawsuits. Many of the DRM strategies put forth by the MPAA and the RIAA go against the constitutional rights of Fair Use.------------

No they don't. The problem is that you are forgetting that it isn't just the MPAA and the RIAA who are in this fight. You also have scumbags like Dr Dre and Metallica who would label us all a bunch of thieves.

It's the Dre's and Metallica's of the world who are pushing the MPAA and RIAA to do what it does.

Go ahead and look up their comments on google. (remember napster!)

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