Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 4th Feb 2006 17:50 UTC, submitted by anonymous
PC-BSD LinuxHelp reviews PC-BSD, the (100% compatible) variant of FreeBSD aimed at the desktop, and concludes: "All in all, PC-BSD is an OS which has a bright future in the desktop market provided the developers provide more variety of software or at least equivalent to those found in the FreeBSD ports." Screenshots included to keep our younger readers happy.
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That is nice.
by jbalmer on Sat 4th Feb 2006 18:06 UTC
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I have always wanted to try out FreeBSD. But the horror stories of installing it kept me from trying it out. Now maybe, I will try out PC-BSD.

Btw, I am just a Linux user whose skills lie in between newbie and intermediate level. ;)

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RE: That is nice.
by Hetfield on Sat 4th Feb 2006 18:30 in reply to "That is nice."
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Ah, don't pay attention to those "horror stories". The installer does feel crappy, especially compared to those found in major Linux distros, but that's because it doesn't have nice graphics and doesn't provide a 3-click-installation. But installing any of the BSD's is extremely fast, and you can start configuring and using the system in no time at all.

By the way, I dual-boot Windows and FreeBSD, but FreeBSD is my desktop OS of choice and I hardly ever boot into Windows. I've been using FreeBSD for around 20 months now, and the last time I actually had to install it was - 20 months ago. It's pretty easy to upgrade without reinstalling, which means that once FreeBSD is installed, you'll never have to touch the installer again. ;)

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RE: That is nice.
by molnarcs on Sun 5th Feb 2006 00:02 in reply to "That is nice."
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Well, the installer is no more unfriendly than Kubuntu's - you just have to read the handbook before you go ahead. The system itself - the underlying FreeBSD - is a much much more simple system than linux. I found it easier to learn as a newbie (or rather, I was at your experience level, between a newbie and an intermediate user when I switched from Mandrake). Everything makes sense, and everything is simple. For instance, I struggled with iptables for weeks, then struggled with a frontend (shorewall) for days before I gave up. In freebsd, to configure the firewall, was to read the docs (pf's docs actually) and write up a ruleset - in english. It took 1/10 times the effort to learn a lot more about PF than it took me to learn iptables. In fact, configuring PF is so simple, that it puts even the graphical frontends available for linux to shame.

The same thing is true for ... well, everything. It took half a day not to be able to figure out (and I'm used to reading man pages) how to disable modules in kubuntu (I wanted to get rid of agpgart, and use nvidia's). apropos modules showed me that additional modules should be specified in /etc/modules - which was not there in kubuntu. I had modules.conf, which was longer than all system config files taken together on freebsd. Wasn't exactly reader friendly either. I figured linux uses some hardware detection to autoload some modules - but how can you tell it not to? Then there are those runlevels - if I contrast that with my simple rc.conf in freebsd, even the graphical config utility in kubuntu seemed more complex.

Anyhow, there is a myth that freebsd, because its true unix (whatever that means) must be more difficult than linux. Well, it is not - it is not a quick replacement for windows either (that's where PC-BSD comes into the picture) - but it is much more approachable for ordinary people, because the excellent documentation, the human readable config files, the general simplicity of the system, and - importantly - the clarity (everything is at the place you would expect it - there is a very clear system layout). I would go as far as to say that FreeBSD is a unix like os for newbies (those newbies at least that are interested in the unix part as well ;) ) - much more so than linux.

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RE: That is nice.
by mario on Sun 5th Feb 2006 16:38 in reply to "That is nice."
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I have always wanted to try out FreeBSD. But the horror stories of installing it kept me from trying it out.

Installing FreeBSD is just as simple as installing Linux - if you select the right distribution of FreeBSD. Ever heard of FreesBIE? It's an excellent LiveCD distro of FreeBSD, autodetected every bit of hardware in each of my PCs, so I think it's going to work for most people out there.

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RE: That is nice.
by Joe User on Sun 5th Feb 2006 20:42 in reply to "That is nice."
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But the horror stories of installing it kept me from trying it out.

If you read the installation manual, you'll find that installing FreeBSD is dirt simple. Just select what you want installed, and start installation. Then it'll ask for a root password, an IP address, and basically that's it, just reboot the system.

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