On Wednesday February 8th, the OpenSolaris Community Advisory Board voted to approve The OpenSolaris Charter. Sun Microsystems also approved the Charter, and the document was signed by Glenn Weinberg, vice president of Sun's Operating Platforms Group.
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Sun-MS over Java?
That was a licencing issue - Microsoft was shipping a version of Java which did not meet the requirements of specifications of which they licenced.
No, Microsoft replaced standard Java components with proprietary extensions making them version in compatible with the specification, there by breaking the licencing agreement - NOTHING at all to do with patents and everything to do with Microsoft continuing to use the trademark 100% Java when it well and truely was not Java - it was a bastardised, incompatible version - hence the reason Simcity.com had a Java version of their SimCity classic provided in two versions, one for Windows, and one for everyone else else.
Problem maybe lies in public representatives Schwartz and McNeally who can't decide between killing or praising linux. Viewpoint in their eyes changes from day to day, and greatest horror of all is that they speak this randomization in public.
Many of us dislike Sun mostly because we can't know what (take solaris and java out of picture here) they will bash and praise tommorow. Ok, what we know. In both cases target is linux on a daily base.
I see nothing inconsistant, all I see is them bashing Novell and RedHat (mainly RedHat) just as RedHat bashes SUN - jut good old fashioned competition.
Stand back and read EVERYONE of the press releases, its all about the linux DISTRIBUTION COMPANIES NOT Linux, because it isn't who SUN is competiting against, SUN is competing against the RedHats (along with Microsoft) of the world.
Hammer on a nail here. I'm still waiting for Notes client or a 64-bit version of Domino. Or Google tools for linux. In my view the only company that put out more than Sun is Novell.
How about opening sourcing their whole product line? I see them jump around like teenagers on energy drinks and yet, when are we going to see DB2 opensourced? how about Domino? Notes client and server?
SUN already has a road map for the release of their Solaris Enterprise System (formerly JES) source to the world, when are we going to see IBM do the same? I thought (not directing this at you) that IBM was all about free love, free code and freedom? what it seems to be more of is a bad case of 'me too' syndrome.
Oh, and what do they announce, "$200million for AIX" - but the unquoted part, it isn't $200million in NEW funding.
But at least be so fair when bashing IBM and name all the projects they helped financialy, IBM put a lot of money fo help various projects.
Eclipse I'll give you that, enhancements to GCC is another one, but there never seems to be the same level of love that one sees between SUN and embracing the use of opensource components are part of their products - when are we going to see IBM start shipping AIX with a tweaked version of GNOME? How about make AIX available on low cost PowerPC hardware being sold by their partners?
Like I said, IBM is all very good at making fancy movies, tricky side steps, but once you take the layer of bullshit off, skim the layer of optimism the more marketspeak, you get back to the reality of what IBM Is all about - selling expensive proprietary hardware, preaching promises that ensure that you MUST use their middleware and services, then extract as much cash out of the victim/customer as you humanly possibly can.
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2005-07-07
Excuse me, where is there a history of SUN suing people over patent infringements?
Sun-MS over Java?
Lets stop the baseless SUN bashing and actually get to this place called reality - so you have a religious hatred of SUN, good for you, but remember at the same time, they aren't the devil, they aren't going to jump through your window and rape you at night.
This part of comment I actualy like:) Sun should be considered this way, yes. But Sun as company.
Problem maybe lies in public representatives Schwartz and McNeally who can't decide between killing or praising linux. Viewpoint in their eyes changes from day to day, and greatest horror of all is that they speak this randomization in public.
Many of us dislike Sun mostly because we can't know what (take solaris and java out of picture here) they will bash and praise tommorow. Ok, what we know. In both cases target is linux on a daily base.
Their opensource deeds are to be respected, not less.
IBM and SUN are alike, they'll throw the OSS community a few things to keep them quiet, and quite frankly, SUN comes out as the good guy each and everytime.
Hammer on a nail here. I'm still waiting for Notes client or a 64-bit version of Domino. Or Google tools for linux. In my view the only company that put out more than Sun is Novell.
But at least be so fair when bashing IBM and name all the projects they helped financialy, IBM put a lot of money fo help various projects.