On Wednesday February 8th, the OpenSolaris Community Advisory Board voted to approve The OpenSolaris Charter. Sun Microsystems also approved the Charter, and the document was signed by Glenn Weinberg, vice president of Sun's Operating Platforms Group.
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Member since:2005-07-07
Solaris Express is still not Open Solaris. You can't compile the code of Open Solaris and get Solaris Express. That's the point that you just can't seem to wrap your head around. I can do that with comparable projects like Fedora or openSUSE.
The problem with you is you don't understand the Solaris development model. I am not going to waste my energy explaining it. Once you do understand what constitutes Solaris you will realize how mistaken you are and how absurd your arguments sounds.
Fedora can be recompiled from source. Because fedora is, Linux + GNU + GNOME+ ..... etc. CDE and Gnome are not part of Solaris they are part of the Solaris Operating Environment ( aka distribution). Solaris is the SunOS Kernel ( incuding drivers) + userland and that's what you get with opensolaris. GNU/Linux is akin to OpenSolaris. Nexenta is synoymous with Fedora. You can compile nexenta from sources. Linux is not Fedora or Opensolaris like wise OpenSolaris is not the Solaris OE.
Like I said please research, then understand before you post.
Member since:2005-07-06
The problem with you is you don't understand the Solaris development model. I am not going to waste my energy explaining it. Once you do understand what constitutes Solaris you will realize how mistaken you are and how absurd your arguments sounds.
The Solaris development model and the distinction you are describing is utterly pointless. What it amounts to is what I've actually described - OpenSolaris is nothing more than a code dump because Sun doesn't want to give a working, compilable, open source OS away for free. Sun's marketing literature about proprietary operating systems from IBM and HP makes me laugh.
You're also missing the point that Sun continually tries to make, which is that Solaris is open source. It isn't, and OpenSolaris and Solaris Express are the proof.
Fedora can be recompiled from source. Because fedora is, Linux + GNU + GNOME+ ..... etc. CDE and Gnome are not part of Solaris they are part of the Solaris Operating Environment ( aka distribution).
No, you're missing the point. Fedora can be compiled from source because all the relevant parts of it are open and the source code is there. Not so with Solaris as a whole. We'll see whether Sun get around to replacing those parts with open source code under a unified license and making Solaris a full, proper open source OS as they have promised.
Solaris is the SunOS Kernel ( incuding drivers) + userland and that's what you get with opensolaris. GNU/Linux is akin to OpenSolaris.
Linux provides nothing in userland and is not comparable with OpenSolaris at all.
Additionally, how would you define the userland? I would define it as the rest of the OS on top of the kernel, which is why I said the distinction that you are describing is just plain daft. Without a whole top-to-bottom OS (Solaris = OpenSolaris = OS) OpenSolaris is going to have very, very, very few contributors. When was the last time you heard anyone describe Solaris as the SunOS kernel plus userland tools plus the Solaris Operating Environment? Never.
Might I suggest Sun changes the name of their open source project to reflect this silly situation rather than trying to pretend it is something that it isn't so they can score extremely cheap marketing points?
Like I said please research, then understand before you post.
Since you don't understand what I'm driving at at all, or you do and don't want to discuss it, then I might suggest some thinking andresearch before you post - the CDDL and Sun's control of it being a case in point.
Edited 2006-02-13 15:29
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2005-07-06
You would do better if you researched topics about which your are dicsussing. Solaris express is the distribution based on OpenSolaris.
You would do well to research what an open source project actually is, and how comparable projects out there work.
Solaris Express is still not Open Solaris. You can't compile the code of Open Solaris and get Solaris Express. That's the point that you just can't seem to wrap your head around. I can do that with comparable projects like Fedora or openSUSE.
The code base and the distribution track perfectly.
Do they really?
Please sell your koolaid elsewhere.
I don't need to. You're drinking it straight off the stall.