Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 14th Feb 2006 22:49 UTC, submitted by jayson.knight
Mac OS X It seems like flee-in-Apple's-fur, cracker 'Maxxuss', has succeeded in cracking Mac OS 10.4.4 for Intel. "We were just about to hunker down and wait through the cold winter and a wet spring until we saw some results on the OS X 10.4.4 for Intel hacking efforts, but it looks like we're getting a little Valentines present from 'Maxxuss' who has already broken through Apple's heightened security that is present in their shipping version of the OS. It's just a preliminary release, not all hardware is supported and it requires a bit of futzing around to get it to work, but seeing as we weren't expecting this kind of breakthrough this early, we really can't complain."
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RE[3]: hmm..
by cujo on Tue 14th Feb 2006 23:33 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: hmm.."
cujo
Member since:
2005-07-06

Actually, it shows yours.

People also don't like speed limits or the price of gas. That doesn't mean you should go to whatever lengths to get your way.

The quest for freedom is a universal human need eh? Spare the world your self-righteous load of bull. This isn't about slavery or breaking free of social injustice. This is about some guy doing something that everyone here knows isn't legit.

If you think this is legit, give it away yourself. And don't forget to put your name, address, and phone number on it.

Thom's comment may have been ill-advised, but the underlying idea is in the right ballpark.

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v RE[4]: hmm..
by monkeyhead on Tue 14th Feb 2006 23:53 in reply to "RE[3]: hmm.."
RE[4]: hmm..
by Get a Life on Wed 15th Feb 2006 08:05 in reply to "RE[3]: hmm.."
Get a Life Member since:
2006-01-01

Yes, being able to modify software and use it as you see fit on your own computer(s) is comparable to speeding (hypothetically endangering the lives others) or not paying for gasoline (not compensating another party for physical goods).

If you buy an Intel-based Mac and want to run the operating system on your Pentium 4, that's between you and your software. That others can acquire OS X without compensating Apple for it might be a side-effect, but it's not an especially sympathetic one. Every software provider has to deal with copyright infringement. That doesn't justify or invalidate any position you hold toward copyright infringement, but if you've ever pirated anything, ever, you're a hypocrite. If you think it's any more acceptable to pirate anything else, then you're a hypocrite.

But piracy is obviously not the only incentive, and no unenforceable EULA changes that.

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RE[5]: hmm..
by dylansmrjones on Wed 15th Feb 2006 12:51 in reply to "RE[4]: hmm.."
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

Besides that, his actions are perfectly legal in Europe. Don't forget that.

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RE[4]: hmm..
by alcibiades on Wed 15th Feb 2006 08:32 in reply to "RE[3]: hmm.."
alcibiades Member since:
2005-10-12

"People also don't like speed limits or the price of gas. That doesn't mean you should go to whatever lengths to get your way."

Breaking the law, and breaking your contract, are two different things. Driving too fast is breaking the law and you can be prosecuted by the police/District Attorney/Crown Prosecution Service on behalf of the people.

Breaking your contract is perfectly legal, though it may be unwise. You cannot be prosecuted by the police/DA/CPS. You can be taken to court by your counterparty, and the court can impose penalties. Whether it will enforce the contract depends on its provisions.

Violating copyright is breaking the law.

Now, installing OSX on your Dell is not violating copyright. It is not breaking any law at all. It is not stealing. It may be violating a contract (the Eula), and the provision of that contractwhich forbids it may be enforceable in law in some jurisdictions.

Not, however, in Europe.

Now could we for goodness' sake have a calm and rational debate which starts from these facts.

And perhaps the editors could check, while they are at it, that the spectre of multiple registrations and modding up by Apple zealots has not returned? There is a strong smell of fish around some of these comments and mods.

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RE[5]: hmm..
by archiesteel on Wed 15th Feb 2006 22:59 in reply to "RE[4]: hmm.."
archiesteel Member since:
2005-07-02

And perhaps the editors could check, while they are at it, that the spectre of multiple registrations and modding up by Apple zealots has not returned? There is a strong smell of fish around some of these comments and mods.

My thoughts exactly. Seems like there might be a few sock puppets in this thread.

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