Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 14th Feb 2006 22:25 UTC
PC-BSD "After using PC-BSD several days, I was impressed with how easy it is to use. It's a good desktop OS, and a great way to introduce BSD to new users. The 1.0 release has a few rough edges, but nothing that should scare off prospective users. For the future, I'd like to see something like Synaptic to manage PBI packages and allow users to browse for software without having to visit the PC-BSD Web site, and it would be nice if the site had a little more documentation, but I expect such things will come along in due time as the project matures."
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RE: Pc-BSD or FreeBSD?
by kernelpanicked on Wed 15th Feb 2006 00:56 UTC in reply to "Pc-BSD or FreeBSD?"
kernelpanicked
Member since:
2006-02-01

Do yourself a favor and install FreeBSD proper. You can have the same desktop with FreeBSD+KDE. The pbi system that they're so proud of is not a real option.

1. There are only a handful of packages in pbi format
2. when you run out of pbi's and try to install from ports, you'll be the proud owner of a broken system

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RE[2]: Pc-BSD or FreeBSD?
by moleskine on Wed 15th Feb 2006 09:39 in reply to "RE: Pc-BSD or FreeBSD?"
moleskine Member since:
2005-11-05

Do yourself a favor and install FreeBSD proper. You can have the same desktop with FreeBSD+KDE.

Thanks for replying. Will give it a go. I'm a Linux person and this will be very interesting, with lots to learn.

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RE[3]: Pc-BSD or FreeBSD?
by dimosd on Wed 15th Feb 2006 11:17 in reply to "RE[2]: Pc-BSD or FreeBSD?"
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2006-02-10

I am a Linux person as well, and have used FreeBSD as my everyday desktop for 2 months in the past. It was great from a Slackware/Gentoo perspective, but ports were weak for upgrading the system. Too much recompiling (even more than Gentoo).

To be honest I haven't tried PCBSD yet, I plan to one of these days. What I have tried is DesktopBSD, and it looks good to me, I think it deserves more public attention. What it gives you is a "proper" FreeBSD, with a quick & easy installation. Nice way to get started with FreeBSD (be sure to read the handbook - it's a must). Binary upgrades are preferred to compiling from source (don't know how well this works, haven't used it enough).

Now I am rather sceptical about PCBSD. .pbi probably can't scale much... but if it can and I am wrong, then it's a step in the right direction for desktop Un*x.

The fact that (I think) PCBSD doesn't, for example, install bash by default (DesktopBSD does) which is something most Linux users would do, and .pbi ignoring ports, prompt me that PCBSD are attempting to build a desktop OS despite being based on FreeBSD, rather than a preconfigured FreeBSD desktop (DesktopBSD's approach).

But still, it brings FreeBSD desktop some publicity.

Now: my dream FreeBSD desktop would use apt-get-ish binary package management (handling versions and such) and still keep ports v2 around, somehow. I don't think anyone is working on this though.

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RE[2]: Pc-BSD or FreeBSD?
by molnarcs on Thu 16th Feb 2006 00:49 in reply to "RE: Pc-BSD or FreeBSD?"
molnarcs Member since:
2005-09-10

2. when you run out of pbi's and try to install from ports, you'll be the proud owner of a broken system

Have you experienced this? I asked specifically this question on forums before I switched: would it be a problem if I update base system to 6-STABLE, or installed packages? I didn't get a definitive answer, but I did install PC-BSD anyway. Since than, I upgraded everything - been running linux_base-rh-9 long before the "official" update, recent -STABLE (actually, 6.1-Prerelease now), KDE 3.5.1 before the update arrived, etc. I have skype (fixed the pbi myself), Linux Binary Compat 1.0, K3B and Midnight Commander installed from a pbi (just to keep track whether something breaks) - and everything works perfectly fine! No brokenness here, in any package. PBIs still install fine, even though there is very little of the original PC-BSD system left on my puter (I was very careful though during the mergemaster phase of buildworld/installworld not to overwrite or eliminate PC-BSD specific scripts or entries in /etc/).

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