Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 15th Feb 2006 22:52 UTC, submitted by Jane Walker
Novell and Ximian Novell plans to release a beta for its Linux Desktop 10 including new features offering better interoperability with Microsoft Office and Open Office, said Ted Haeger, Novell's director of user communities, at the Southern California Linux Expo. The beta, tentatively scheduled for release next month, will include a new feature, dubbed Xgl. Haeger said Xgl will allow users to jump between screens and multiple desktops. Targeted to CAD software users, Xgl has a practical side that allows users to have better window- and file-sharing capabilities.
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segedunum
Member since:
2005-07-06

Goodness. Is there anyone at Novell who can't talk crap, or a CTO somewhere that actually knows what's going on? Small wonder Alan Nugent left.

Haeger said Xgl will allow users to jump between screens and multiple desktops.

Yay! Oh, hang on. I'm doing that now.

Targeted to CAD software users

Yay! Oh damn. Where's the CAD software?

Xgl has a practical side that allows users to have better window- and file-sharing capabilities.

Yay! Err, better filesharing capabilities?

The planned Novell desktop package, which incorporates OpenOffice, includes support for Visual Basic macros used in Excel.

So no OpenDocument promotion then?

Better integration with OpenOffice will allow Linux Desktop 10 to use what Haeger described as "native theming." That means OpenOffice will automatically adopt the use of icons similar to that of the native operating system...

Yay. Oh, already have that.

For people to start adopting Linux [on the desktop], it's not just about the applications; it's about the feel as well as the applications...

Err, no actually. It's about the applications.

All this is meant to be more personal so that people get an attachment to the desktop. And that can help drive us forward [with] more and more apps and lower prices.

Stunning strategy there. Where are these lower prices going to come from?

AppArmor -- which Haegar called a "prophylactic for your applications"

Oooohhhh....

Microsoft documents sealed with Microsoft encryption can be opened on OpenOffice.

Cementing Microsoft Office more. What happens when Microsoft starts using a TPM for this stuff?

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abraxas Member since:
2005-07-07

Cementing Microsoft Office more. What happens when Microsoft starts using a TPM for this stuff?

I guess then OpenOffice will too. There is already a TPM module in the kernel. TPM is not a MS-only technology.

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segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

There is already a TPM module in the kernel. TPM is not a MS-only technology.

If you knew what that meant you'd realise that Microsoft can tie a Word document exclusively to Word, or more tantalisingly, to a version of Word.

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moleskine Member since:
2005-11-05

Goodness. Is there anyone at Novell who can't talk crap, or a CTO somewhere that actually knows what's going on? Small wonder Alan Nugent left.

I'm not quite sure what your animus is. Novell aren't delivering anything different from most other Linux distros, though arguably they do it better than a lot of folks. So why don't we write off, say, Ubuntu, Mandriva, Mepis and Fedora while we're about it? And in terms of underwriting open source development, Novell are probably doing more than all those others added together.

Given the whole Novell group's financial problems, I'd agree that announcing some changes in their next release might amount to shifting around the deckchairs, if that's what you were getting at. Or perhaps that Novell might be better off it they did do it all differently. For all that, SuSE has always been and still is a topflight distro, imho.

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segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

So why don't we write off, say, Ubuntu, Mandriva, Mepis and Fedora while we're about it?

Because they actually have people using them.

Given the whole Novell group's financial problems, I'd agree that announcing some changes in their next release might amount to shifting around the deckchairs, if that's what you were getting at.

Well not really. It's just there's nothing compelling in there, and at least, there's nothing in there that's going to make Novell any money. A lot of the desktop work can actually be used to give their servers top-notch graphical tools to make Novell's software really compelling, but alas, there is nothing.

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devnull Member since:
2005-07-06

I really wonder who modded you up.
Your knowledge is very limited and biased.

Cad software for Linux:
(and please look deeper into things before making stupid comments)

To name a few prof. applikcations..
- Varicad
- Microstation
- Synergy

There are also lot of free and open CAD/CAM programs.
Looks like you yourself a full of crap to, i did not bother to read the rest of your statements...

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segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

Cad software for Linux:
(and please look deeper into things before making stupid comments)

To name a few prof. applikcations..
- Varicad
- Microstation
- Synergy

There are also lot of free and open CAD/CAM programs.


As for lack of knowledge, go and read up about what applications are missing in terms of Linux support and you'll find CAD in general, and particularly AutoCAD, high on the list in terms of the features some would miss.

Goodness knows how XGL would improve the above applications anyway.

Looks like you yourself a full of crap to, i did not bother to read the rest of your statements...

Probably because you don't want to look.

Edited 2006-02-16 20:16

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devnull Member since:
2005-07-06

>As for lack of knowledge, go and read up about what
>applications are missing in terms of Linux support and
>you'll find CAD in general, and particularly AutoCAD,
> high on the list in terms of the features some would
>miss.

Again where is the source for that?

some other CAD examples wich are on par or higher than
Autocad.

Cycas:
http://www.cycas.de/

Arcad: http://www.lx-office.com/LX/products/architektur/arcad/index.html

Autocad would be a warm welcome but its nonsense to say that Linux lacks CAD applications or support.

Edited 2006-02-17 00:24

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