Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 20th Feb 2006 12:22 UTC, submitted by Rahul
X11, Window Managers Updated: Fedora was right in the middle of announcing all this properly, so here is the updated item containing the official names. Videos included, as well as the inevitable 'Why not Xgl?'. "AIGLX is a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop. We have a lightly modified X server (that includes a couple of extensions), an updated Mesa package that adds some new protocol support and a version of metacity with a composite manager. The end result is that you can use GL effects on your desktop with very few changes, the ability to turn it on and off at will, and you don't have to replace your X server in the process." This is part of Fedora's Rendering Project, and instructions on how to install all this are available too.
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Why don't.....
by MonkeyPie on Mon 20th Feb 2006 14:10 UTC
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2005-07-06

Why don't they just work together? I keep hearing this and I have to wonder about all that talk.

Why don't the Gnome and KDE developers just stop creating their own desktops and just go ahead and make the Knome project. Forget the different focuses and differences in thought.

Why do we need Gaim when we have Kopete? Or Koffice when OpenOffice is already there?

Who needs a choice? I guess I don't.

One of the main differences that I see in Bling is that they seem to have font rendering in mind as well as eyecandy and compositing. They are using Pango to help composite and draw the fonts as well. Thinking of text not just 3D effects. As far as I know Compiz or Xgl doesn't take this in account. If I am wrong please let me know.

JRM7

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RE: Why don't.....
by collinm on Mon 20th Feb 2006 15:50 in reply to "Why don't....."
collinm Member since:
2005-07-15

surely because kde have 65% linux desktop and gnome 20%

kde have application for all domain, it's not true for gnome

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by gilboa on Mon 20th Feb 2006 18:07 in reply to "RE: Why don't....."
gilboa Member since:
2005-07-06

(I'm a KDE user...)

Do you have a survey that backs your "65%/20%" statistics?

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RE: Why don't.....
by diegocg on Mon 20th Feb 2006 18:37 in reply to "Why don't....."
diegocg Member since:
2005-07-08

Or Koffice when OpenOffice is already there?


Because koffice was there before openoffice was opensourced...?

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by MonkeyPie on Mon 20th Feb 2006 18:47 in reply to "RE: Why don't....."
MonkeyPie Member since:
2005-07-06

That's really not the point now is it... according to the idea that we don't need more choice, then OpenOffice, which has a code base much older than KOffice, should be the only one that needs furthering and the KOffice devels should just go ahead and contribute to the OO.org development. This is the way I feel about the people screaming "Why don't they just work together?"

JRM7

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RE: Why don't.....
by poofyhairguy on Mon 20th Feb 2006 22:05 in reply to "Why don't....."
poofyhairguy Member since:
2005-07-14


One of the main differences that I see in Bling is that they seem to have font rendering in mind as well as eyecandy and compositing. They are using Pango to help composite and draw the fonts as well. Thinking of text not just 3D effects. As far as I know Compiz or Xgl doesn't take this in account. If I am wrong please let me know.


Most of the font work is done on the Cairo end of things, and David (the creator of XGL) made glitz which is used to accerate Cairo.

So technically XGL will work smoothly what is already done. This is better than Redhat's approach which is to make a new framework and talk about it a lot in hopes that others will extend it for them...

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by Pfeifer on Mon 20th Feb 2006 23:23 in reply to "RE: Why don't....."
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2006-02-20

Well, actually it's the other way round: AIGLX uses the existing pieces and implements accelerated 3D with them. (The problem lies within the drivers, which have to be adapted to this chances.)

GLX however requires a completly new xserver. In other ways; to throw away the complete Xorg codebase and start anew.

And you may know (or not): GLX still requires a host XServer. It is not a complete XServer itself. It's a hack.

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by antwarrior on Wed 22nd Feb 2006 19:50 in reply to "Why don't....."
antwarrior Member since:
2006-02-11

It will never happen because we will fight over the name.
Should we call it Knome or Gknome .

seriously now....

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