Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 22nd Feb 2006 22:15 UTC, submitted by Kombatant
3D News, GL, DirectX "ATI's R5xx line was first released back in October 2005. The initial launch covered the X1800 and X1300 series, with the X1600 series following suit in November. Last month we saw the release of the new X1900 series too. Now, let me count the months from October to February; it is 5 months, right? Well, believe it or not, that's the number of months the new X1000 series is out in the market without Linux support. If you are unfortunate enough to own such a card, all you have is Matthew Tippett's statement in Phoronix."
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RE: what about specs?
by umccullough on Wed 22nd Feb 2006 22:42 UTC in reply to "what about specs?"
umccullough
Member since:
2006-01-26

If I recall, ATI is better at releasing 2d specs than nVidia already - but I think it's the 3d specs that NOBODY wants to release due to the fear of competition stealing their internals or something.

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RE[2]: what about specs?
by Beta on Wed 22nd Feb 2006 22:51 in reply to "RE: what about specs?"
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2005-07-06

Can't they (nVidia + ATi) release the 3d specs at the same time?
They'd have the same edge over each other, and it would probably improve each of their implementations.

Wishful thinking, I guess.

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RE[3]: what about specs?
by hohlraum on Thu 23rd Feb 2006 05:40 in reply to "RE[2]: what about specs?"
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2005-12-13

ati has a history of writing crappy drivers. on paper over the years there cards have had better specs than the competition yet never could out perform nvidia. personally i don't see nvidia releasing anything they thing might give ATI an insight.

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RE[2]: what about specs?
by CrimsonScythe on Wed 22nd Feb 2006 23:41 in reply to "RE: what about specs?"
CrimsonScythe Member since:
2005-07-10

The problem isn't that they're afraid that the competition will steal anything from them, but that the competition will sue over potentially infringed patents. I would think that's much more devastating than someone stealing ideas, so you probably won't see any specs on the 3D chips from neither ATI nor nVidia. Also, IIRC the newer ATI cards have the 2D part included in the 3D chip, and so the specs for the 2D won't be released either.

I guess the only thing to do until ATI gets their act together, in my opinion, is to buy nVidia. At least they make decent Linux drivers.

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RE[2]: what about specs?
by ma_d on Thu 23rd Feb 2006 07:33 in reply to "RE: what about specs?"
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2005-06-29

Or ... the specs aren't up to snuff to show. Remember why Microsoft can't release protocol documentation? They don't have anything good to release ;) .

I really doubt you could learn anything shocking from specs on how to talk to their hardware.
It could actually be nothing more than management thinking that said specs could be a problem, in said way, where the odds are really approaching zero. But, why take a risk for some geeks, right?

Oh wait, all their best customers are geeks!

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