Linked by Eugenia Loli on Sat 25th Feb 2006 07:36 UTC
BSD and Darwin derivatives "With the release of Mac OS X for x86 processors, Apple has chosen to not release source to key components of the OS, such as the kernel and all drivers. This means Darwin/x86 is dead in the water; Darwin/ppc has many closed source components and is a deprecated architecture." Read more here.
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RE[2]: thanks
by MysterMask on Sat 25th Feb 2006 13:06 UTC in reply to "RE: thanks"
MysterMask
Member since:
2005-07-12

that even without Darwin in the future some hacker will figure out how to do it.

Yes. But it should be a lot easier and faster if you can just modify and recompile the source code.

Cracked copies are less interesting if you can only get old versions e. g. when it takes more time to crack a version than Apple needs to release the next few updates or major OS release, the "cracking game" loses some of its appeal ..

It would be nice if those self-appointed "heroes of freedom" would stopp warezing OSX because they only going to hurt regular Apple customers and people interested in open source by forcing Apple to implement protecting schemes or - as we see now - closing their sources.

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RE[3]: thanks
by alcibiades on Sat 25th Feb 2006 13:32 in reply to "RE[2]: thanks"
alcibiades Member since:
2005-10-12

"...forcing Apple to implement protecting schemes or - as we see now - closing their sources."

Yes. Forcing may be the wrong word.

Apple has another alternative: to sell customers what they want to buy. This is what any reasonable business management team would do. As far as we can see, what customers (not all, but a significant number) want to buy is (1) Apple hardware that will boot and run Windows (2) Non-Apple hardware that will boot and run OSX. We may not ourselves want to buy either, but there is nothing particularly unreasonable about them, and a rational management team would figure out some way to sell both and make money at it.

And don't say its impossible. It clearly isn't. If they could invent the iPod, they could easily manage to do it.

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RE[4]: thanks
by hal2k1 on Sat 25th Feb 2006 13:50 in reply to "RE[3]: thanks"
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2005-11-11

"As far as we can see, what customers (not all, but a significant number) want to buy is (1) Apple hardware that will boot and run Windows (2) Non-Apple hardware that will boot and run OSX."

You forgot about (3) customers who don't give a fig about Apple, OSX, Apple hardware or non-Apple hardware - but who would pay for and run (on hardware they already owned) an OSX application that satisfied a need they had.

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RE[4]: thanks
by moleskine on Sat 25th Feb 2006 14:02 in reply to "RE[3]: thanks"
moleskine Member since:
2005-11-05

Apple has another alternative: to sell customers what they want to buy. This is what any reasonable business management team would do.

Er, no. The calculation is to make the bits consumers do want compelling enough to make them put up with the bits they don't want. In this case, the bit they don't want is running OS X on Mac-only hardware. It's hard to see that changing soon, though, because a general x86 OS X would be cracked and pirated in its millions in a jiffy, quite apart from the loss of hardware sales for Apple.

From Apple's POV, something like a 1 per cent increase in share of the total PC market translates to a 50 per cent increase in Apple's customer headcount. Apart from the hassle of growing that fast, they can limit the availability of OS X and still do fabulously well.

Just my 2 cents, but I found the article self-pitying and unattractive. So at one time Apple accepted inputs from outsiders who must have known what was likely to happen. It does not follow that today Apple should open up their OS in a way that might make ripping it off much less difficult. If you don't like Apple, don't use a Mac. There are only 200++ other BSDs and Linuxes to choose from.

Edited 2006-02-25 14:04

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