Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 17th Mar 2017 22:48 UTC

Realistically, nobody should have expected Ryzen to be king of the hill when it comes to gaming. We know that Broadwell isn't, after all; Intel's Skylake and Kaby Lake parts both beat Broadwell in a wide range of games. This is the case even though Skylake and Kaby Lake are limited to four cores and eight threads; for many or most games, high IPC and high clock speeds are the key to top performance, and that's precisely what Kaby Lake delivers.

In spite of this, reading the various reviews around the Web - and comment threads, tweets, and reddit posts - one gets the feeling that many were hoping or expecting Ryzen to somehow beat Intel across the board, and there's a prevailing narrative that Ryzen is in some sense a bad gaming chip. But this argument is often paired with the claim that some kind of non-specific "optimization" is going to salvage the processor's performance, that AMD fans just need to keep the faith for a few months, and that soon Ryzen's full power will be revealed.

Both parts of this reaction are more than a little flawed.

I'm just glad there's finally competition in the desktop processor space again. Intel started to charge some outrageous prices these past few years, but if you wanted the best performance, you really didn't have much of a choice.

With Ryzen, AMD is showing the world it's back on track. It might not be there yet in every aspect, but it's an amazingly promising start.

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The Version 4.9 of Linux will have corrections in it for single and multi-processor management. That is the reason the AMDs were shown to be slightly slower than the more expensive Intel cpus. I am not going to argue about which is better performing in seconds to complete a job. My testing of AMD vs Intel in most cases until now was a result of waiting for diskio to complete. Dollar for dollar, AMD won hands down. The games that I play will still work, only better than my existing system.

The new Ryzen chips that I am considering are coming to market at 65watts tdc versus Intel's 90watts. The I5s and I7s are toasters. I am not after a toaster that is a few percent faster. I have set my budget to $700, where I will reuse my case, power supply, DVD and SATA disks. I am after a mother board, cpu, graphics card and 16gigs of ddr4ram. I think my budget is reasonable.

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