Submitted by “ActiveState has announced the end of engineering support for Visual Perl, Visual Python, and Visual XSLT, effective immediately. The plug-ins will not be updated for Visual Studio 2005, and there will be no further maintenance on the Visual Studio 2003- and 2002-compatible versions. Due to the necessary inclusion of Visual Studio integration code in Visual Perl, Visual Python, and Visual XSLT, the plug-ins will not be open-sourced.”
It is unfortunate that the Perl and Python plugins for Visual Studio will be discontinued. Looks like either no one knew about them and no one used them… they will probably not be missed for VD 2005.
huh…finally
Why pollute your hard drive with 20+ megs of .NET when you can use regular Python for a lot less?
VisualPython doesn’t have anythong to do with the .NET framework. It’s just a way to write Python inside Visual Studio – good for people who need to use VS a lot for other projects, etc.
Your thinking of IronPython. Different product.
While technically, your comment of 20+ Megs is correct, Visual Studio takes about 2GB of space (you couldn’t be talking about the .NET runtime since that is unrelated to the topic at hand).
Why pollute your hard drive with an amateur scripting framework if you can use a professional development environment ? If you develop a bigger application then “hello world” the .NET is far more productive then python.
Troll
All right. Try to develop a little business application with ~50 tables, ~150 complex forms with both web and ritch client under .NET and Python. And when you finished, please tell me who is the troll 😉
I will not miss this for a second.
I have full ASPN subscription and use Komodo every day.
My subscription allows me to use Visual Perl and other Visual stuff from ActiveState, but frankly having Komodo at hand I did not see point to use it at all.
These plugins required you to not only purchase the plugin, but purchase or own visual studio. I’m sure most Perl and Python programmers don’t have VS and a good number of them don’t run windows either. Komodo does not require VS and is avail on multiple OS’s.
The plugins were $200+ and that doesn’t unclude the 700+ for visual studio. Plus, correct me if i’m wrong, visual studio didn’t offer tk gui.
Obviosly thier Komodo product is doing much better. I think Komodo and Optiperl are better anyway. Komodo is cheaper and cross-platform and Optiperl is a Perl IDE on Crack.
20MB? Visual Studio ships on 3 cd’s
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I’m sitting here with the standard edition on two CDs. The team/professional editions might be on three. As for the cost. Mine were free, but you can get the standard edition for under $200 if you shop around.
And the ZX-81 basic is only 8 kilobyte…
Longtime .Net developer, and I’ve yet to see a project that used any of the plugins, so I’m definitely not surprised. Let them focus on their other great products!
I think VS is good for C# and C++ programming, but quite frankly, it is a great deal of bloat for doing Python or Perl or anything else really.
I think ActiveState’s Komodo or Wingware’s WingIDE are much better IDE solutions for Python than VS (for those that want them).
Personally, I use a wxPython demo app called PyShell for prototyping things and then use a standard editor (Kate, Vim, Scite) to make it all permanent.