Submitted by “Novell’s SLED 10 is a decent business desktop operating system as-is. However, it does not appropriately meet the needs of a large portion of business professionals. This guide will show you how to install or upgrade the Java Development Kit, install software from the SUSE Linux 10.1 package repositories, and enable DVD movie playback in SLED 10.” Note: I also used the Pacman repositories weeks ago to install the non-free packages; it seems to have not affected stability.
How could they are taking their buisness seriously if you have serious flaws with xgl when used with supported hardware; they say in their web sites that you have to uninstall then reinstall the packages xgl and kompiz if you happen to install nvidia proprietary drivers.
The cursor was crashing constantly and draw a black square around it.
Besides, the default install didn’t choose the source kernel which was a bother because most people will require them to install their GPUs, as Novell do not support the two major drivers necessary for most GPUs, namely nvidia and ATI.
I believe they need super hacking not just hacking to let it work.
Trying to install applications from sources were completely problematic- due to dependancy hell- as there are no available binaries for this new OS.
If you try to run konqueror it would ask you for administrative password, why in the hell?! never seen any distro ask for it!
Didn’t had a problem getting XGL and kompiz to work on my Thinkpad T60 with ATI X1300.
Good for you; but I cannot afford Thinkpad for the sake of XGL alone.
I don’t really understand most of your problems.
While SLED 10 doesn’t ship proprietary nVidia and ATI drivers, because they don’t want to violate the GPL, they automatically set up a repository from ATI and nVidia which provide pre-compiled packages for SLE 10. These packages are set up automatically when you enable Xgl, so I wonder why you’re fiddling with re-installing rpms and building kernel modules.
Of course, if you want to build kernel modules all you have to do is install the kernel-source and gcc packages, which are available from the installation media.
Also, SLED is mostly compatible with openSUSE Linux 10.1 (only few exceptions, like the kernel from 10.1 which is still not backported to SLED).
“These packages are set up automatically when you enable Xgl,”
First it will not install the nvidia proprietary packages automatically (or manually) as you claimed; Second if you just did what you said it will leave you will leave you with blank dark black screen. Please try it before saying that.
And regarding the kernel source, it must be installed by default because some applications need them to install- eg bestcrypt by jetico and vmware- and I don’t want to return to the DVD media; besides remember that there is no option to choose all packages during the installation -like in Redhat Enterprise Linux- and which is really a huge bother when you want to make sure you don’t want to return back to the installation media or carry it with you or in the enterprise if you don’t wanna leave a DVD with each customer who misses some packages.
First it will not install the nvidia proprietary packages automatically (or manually) as you claimed; Second if you just did what you said it will leave you will leave you with blank dark black screen. Please try it before saying that.
You’ll have to read what I said again.
From the “Desktop Effects” application in your control center you can click a few buttons to install the drivers. And you won’t have to manually do anything else like you claimed you had to. So maybe you should actually try it.
And regarding the kernel source, it must be installed by default because some applications need them to install- eg bestcrypt by jetico and vmware- and I don’t want to return to the DVD media;
That’s great. I’ll write Novell a leter to let them know kernel-source should be installed by default because hraq doesn’t want to return to the DVD media.
“And you won’t have to manually do anything else”
Mr Genius, I do have to do alot with xorg.conf file even after I install the drivers, because the screen resolution I use is 1920×1200@60 Hz strictly on Viewsonic VP 231wb, which shows me that you never installed linux in any professional way on many hardware.
“That’s great. I’ll write Novell a leter to let them know kernel-source should be installed by default”
I appreciate your help, but doubt you will do it; the idea is that SLED is not a good enterprise alternative, because they don’t care much about the enterprise more than they care about casual users like you, who will never generate for then probably a dime.
http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=700&slide=5…
Could not get it to install on my amd64 X2 windsor w/n590 chipset, went to gentoo instead, magical, worked great! I do not regret purchasing Novell’s otherwise fine distro, I believe you should vote with your wallet and Novell seems to be on the right path and should definitely be supported and encouraged especially after their latest stand against proprietary drivers. I will probably buy their next release whether I run it or not, makes a great door prize at the LUG.
Could not get it to install on my amd64 X2 windsor w/n590 chipset
well, I hope this helps you a little bit. some nvidia 590 chipsets require features that will be in 2.6.18.
I have to boot my fedora 2.6.17 with noapic, irqpool, noacpi and one other kernel param I can’t remember now. rc2 of 2.6.18 works out of the box, except that I’m waiting for stable.
OpenSuse 10.1 was problematic, so I started waiting for SLED, but as far as I here there are still problems.
Oh, there are alot of problems. let me tell you about one program that installed from source on all machines with any linux distro except SLED, this application is called yahoo messenger. Tons of missing dependancy packages; and to make it worse they didn’t include a button to choose all packages from their DVD during the installation which leave you confused to search for them online or to search for them on the installation DVD. Another funny problem, if an enterprise customer likes konqueror and wants to run it would ask him for root password!!! Ask the system administrators for that.
let me tell you about one program that installed from source on all machines with any linux distro except SLED, this application is called yahoo messenger.
Huh? The source for Yahoo messenger is publicly available?
Sounds like your complaining about “YaST issues” that were seen in the first final release of 10.1, which were then fixed with updates, and the updates have been applied within SLED 10.
If this isn’t the case then what is your problem? What DE are you running?
But yeah, bet it’s the obvious that has been talked about since day one of the 10.1 release.
Purchased two licenses and I’m running one on a Acer laptop and the other on a PC. I have XGL working on both and have installed software from 10.1 repos without any problems. Although you must be careful what packages you choose.
running openSUSE right now and I must say while general speed and responsiveness are halfway acceptable Yast is _unbearably_ slow.
Is it SUSE in general or just the open version or is my hardware crap? I mean 3000+ should be fast enough, shouldn’t it?
I used 9.2 before and it was hell of a lot faster!
Otherwise it’s a fine distro…
The ximian monkeys have f–ked up the package management in Suse 10.1 and SLED 10. This is so much of a pain in the ass that I am only keeping a Suse partition in order to support my customers running it.
On my laptop, I have Suse 10 with the latest KDE and it works superbly. Novell’s open suse’s build service is outstanding. I wish the Ximian monkeys would stop messing around with shit they don’t understand. Stick to Mono and evolution and leave the core distro and package management to the Suse hackers who had a good thing going before Novell’s management messed it up.
I find both openSUSE 10.1 and SLED 10 horrible resource hogs, and with a Pentium D 920 and 4 GB of DDR2 RAM, my system shouldn’t be a slouch.
Never ever use x.0 versions – judging from my experience and the experience of some of my friends they absolutely tend to suck.
Think of x.1 as some sort of bugfix.
I installed apt and created a sources.list based on this site: ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE
Once you have done that you can install virtually everything.
However I went back to openSUSE. It is better for home desktop needs, once you download the updates.
But I keep the SLED 10 DVD for its repair feature. In openSUSE 10.1 is broken.
I get an error message when I try to update my system:
Resolvable id 15168 does not exist.
Does anyone know what I could do?
Thanks in advance,
J.Verhoeckx