posted by Thom Holwerda on Fri 12th Jun 2015 07:26 UTC
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I tend not to link to podcasts - I don't like podcasts and prefer good ol' text - but this one is pretty great.

Recorded in front of a live audience at Mezzanine in San Francisco, John Gruber is joined by Phil Schiller to discuss the news from WWDC: OS X 10.11 El Capitan, iOS 9, the new native app SDK for Apple Watch, Apple Music, and the 2004 American League Championship series.

It's a bit feelgood, of course, but it's still totally worth it. Schiller and Gruber hit it off on this one, and there's some great stories in there.


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