Eleven software products planned for initial OS bundle. After two delays, Sun Microsystems intends to debut a beta of its much-hyped Project Orion later this month, with a formal introduction of the product bundle at September’s Sun Network show at the Moscone Center in San Francisco, CRN has learned.
Sun Plans Orion Beta For Late July
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Like the spaceship, this seems like a good idea, but likely to go out in a whisper instead of a bang…
….to the end user.
I am very positive Sun would set new heights in its growth yet again as it has set with Solaris when it bundled the OS level components.
Go Sun go!
Regards.
Siva Gowravajhala.
Yeah, but I can’t get a Sun workstation for less than $200, so sun must be evil.
And, Sun isn’t ready for the desktop. I say this because it doesn’t behave exactly like Windows XP.
-hugh
I have read the article and I understand it is part of the strategy that will save Sun, but I am having a hard time understanding what it is?
Please help me understand.
Can I run Microsoft Word with Orion?
Does it have layers and if so, shouldn´t it be called Project Onion?
It is pretty self explanitory. You pay $100 per user and you get access to all of SUN’s software line up. Once Project Orion is ready, you’ll see Staroffice 6.1, GNOME, Evolution, the whole iPlanet line up etc etc.
You pay $100 per-user, per year. That pays for everything. From the server access to the client software.
As for Word, are you joking? are you really that stupid? you actually realise Word is made by Microsoft and Microsoft has NOTHING to do with SUN or this whole article?
sorry for being such an ignorant, but what is project orion (aside from sounding like MS’ .net/its everything and everyone)
Dear CooCooCaChooChoo,
First, why do you have such a complicated name?
Second, why do you call me stupid?
Third, how would you call people that pay $100/yr to Sun for software they can download for free from other sources?
Fourth, what is iPlanet?
Fifth, since you have not answered me, why don´t they call it Project Onion? It stinks, it makes one cry, and it has layers.
Dear CooCooCaChooChoo,
First, why do you have such a complicated name?
Why are you such a clueless moron. Any person with half a brain would know that word is off the Beatles song, “I am the egg man!” from the Magical Mystery Bus Tour.
Second, why do you call me stupid?
Because if you actually took the time to read the articles relating to this topic that Eugenia Loli-Queru posts week after week after week after week, you would well and truely know what it is.
Third, how would you call people that pay $100/yr to Sun for software they can download for free from other sources?
Please, someone buy this lady a clue. Support my dear, support. If you are a fortune 500 company, would you rely your WHOLE organisation on the motivation of a few hackers to get issues fixed? f*ck no, you’ll pay a license fee which will cover those costs and for $100, that is a bloody bargin if you ask me.
Fourth, what is iPlanet?
Again, read the bloody press release. This has been around for almost 5 blood years! does one really need to go into the Netscape-SUN alliance the eventual purchase of Netscapes server intellectual property? where have you been? hiding under a rock?
Fifth, since you have not answered me, why don´t they call it Project Onion? It stinks, it makes one cry, and it has layers.
By another clue lady (jeepers, two clue orders within one post, must be a record).
1) Project Orion is an internal name. It is being sold extenally as the SUN One Software Stack
2) What sounds better then? Whistler? Longhorn? some woofter yanky mountain the middle of nowhere? had they called Windows XP project Pravda, then atleast there would be some truth in the name of the project in relation to the product out come and marketing stratergy.
Dear Ana,
CooCooCaChoo is an 31337 asshole. Deal with it.
sounds like a more worthy goal than paying $100 for sun software.
I am not an “31337 asshole”, I just can’t stand needing to spell out the bloody obvious. Any prick with a webbrowser could have found out the answers to all her questions. Heck, even I, with the terrible state of my memory can remember the announcement by Scott McNealy in regards to the Netscape-SUN appliance. That was 5 years ago!
as for the geomagic.com website, could you possibly make it ANY MORE bloated, I mean, why the heck not just chuck a 4gig DVD quality movie for the introduction page for goodness sake, that would REALLY make my and every other non-broadband users day.
And are you the local comedian? I’ve laughed harder at the Daily Show, which IMHO is the biggest load of non-humourous crap ever made, than your so-called “dry and witty comment”.
wow, a total RTFM/RTFA thread on a lame 1998 level of argumentation. Or lack thereof.
Dear Coo,
I hope you don´t mind, I´ll call you Coo from now on. Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions. However your answers, although to the point, have raised new and pressing questions. So here goes:
1) In two posts you have managed to call me stupid and a moron, and, accessorily, a lady. Do you consider yourself politically correct, just because your pen name is (in a very obscure way) reminiscent of a Beatles song?
2) You mentioned support. I quote: ¨Support my dear, support.¨ Do you realize you have missed a comma after the first ¨support¨? Now your phrase means I have to support your dear, and I really hate to think what you could mean by that. Is your dear falling? Does it need support? Do you really think it is up to me, a lady, to support your dear? And what kind of support do you think Sun will provide, for $100 a seat per year, if I ask them a question about GNOME?
3) I didn´t see GNOME mentioned in the article about the Beta of Project Onion. I saw a bunch of server software, though. SO I still don´t know what Project Onion is all about. Is it like Click´N-Run, or like a software club, or does Sun just think it has found a way to milk some more $ out of its clueless clients?
Thanks, Coo, you are a dear, really.
Ana, Its futile to continue. PooPooCaChoo is a last-word beast and will do anything to “win” a conversation. Let him play with his computers and continue to be all-knowing. We should move on to something more constructive.
Ana,
Project Orion is a bunch of software, some Free Software, some Open Source software, and some Proprietary software.
New releases will be made quarterly, and specifically tested to all work together, instead of, for example, getting the latest version of iPlanet and finding you need to upgrade the OS.
http://www.sun.com/2003-0226/orion/
http://www.sun.com/2003-0226/orion/faq.html
should answer most of your questions, along with
http://www.sun.com/aboutsun/media/presskits/orion/
I don’t think the entire list of software is available yet, but things like:
Solaris OS
StarOffice productivity software
iPlanet Web Server
– basically the goodies you install onto the machine after installing the OS, all together and integrated.
Sorry, but isn’t this too little, way too late? On the bright side, Sun does claim it will be “Making Order Out of Chaos”
You folks do realize that Ana O´Neemus is a psudonym for “Anonymous”, right?
Please, don’t feed the troll.
Third, how would you call people that pay $100/yr to Sun for software they can download for free from other sources?
Would you care to show me an open source IMAP server that is on par with Sun ONE Message Server? Before you respond, here’s a list of them that are *not*:
Cyrus: proprietary mailbox format with awkward backend delivery mechanisms
Courier: bound to gcc toolchain, supports only Maildir, poor performance under load compared to Cyrus and SOMS
UW IMAP: terrible subfolder support, terrible performance and implementation
You should try doing work in a properly configured LDAP-driven environment time, it’s quite nice.
Care to point me to an open source LDAP-driven mail filter that’s on par with Sieve? The only thing close I can think of is procmail, which has no LDAP support.
RE: DoctorPepper (IP: —.ml.com)
Thanks for clearing that up. I really couldn’t believe someone would be as stupid Ana O´Neemus unless they were a troll. The strange thing is that my troll-o-metre didn’t register any activity. Maybe I need to replace it.
RE: Steve P (IP: —.netops.co.uk)
Having talked to a person at SUN, project Orion includes the whole SUN product line up plus Project Madhatter. The idea is to sell a complete solution “in a box” so that rather than the customer hunt around for various bits ‘n pieces, it is all “there” in the one box. Project Orion also includes Oracle DB IIRC as well.
RE: Bascule (IP: —.client.attbi.com)
IMHO, Microsoft is really going to feel pressure in the server market when you take into consideration that no only will the stack be available on SPARC but x86 as well, meaning, if one wanted to move, they would just have to purchase the software and run it ontop of Solaris x86 once the x86 versions of the stack are ready. From what I have heard, they are getting “there” very fast.