Home > Fedora Core > Fedora Core test3 Available Fedora Core test3 Available Submitted by n0dez 2003-10-13 Fedora Core 39 Comments Red Hat’s Fedora Core test-3 is out and available for testing. Not all mirrors are synced yet, but this one is. BitTorrent link is available too. About The Author Eugenia Loli Ex-programmer, ex-editor in chief at OSNews.com, now a visual artist/filmmaker. Follow me on Twitter @EugeniaLoli 39 Comments 2003-10-13 8:24 pm The ftp address is not working, at least for now… 2003-10-13 8:35 pm Package list: http://fedora.redhat.com/projects/package-list/ Very interesting. They ship: GCC 3.3 Kernel 2.4.22 Gnome 2.4 Abiword 2.0 OpenTextSummarizer 0.4.1 XFree 4.3 GLibc2.3 I wonder why did they decide to ship gcc 3.3 ? 2003-10-13 8:37 pm That package list is from test2 (the last one On a side note… how is this different from RH9 + apt-rpm + Rawhide (if any)? 2003-10-13 8:37 pm That’s test2 you are reffering to. Today’s Fedora beta is test3. 2003-10-13 8:43 pm They are also shipping GCC32, which is the 3.2.3 version. Good question..why both? Also only OO 1.0.2? Why not 1.1? 2003-10-13 8:46 pm Well, use bittorrent. It’s the best choice to get your isos. | status: finishing in 41:39:44 (0.2%) || dl speed: 10.8 KB/s || ul speed: 4.3 KB/s || error(s): Well, it will finish in just 2 days. 🙁 But it is better than ftp. 2003-10-13 8:47 pm Distrowatch is showing that they have openoffice 1.1.0… See: http://www.distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=redhat 2003-10-13 8:47 pm …now I just need to get home to try it out. I’m still wary of putting it on my main box at work. I haven’t tried any of the other Severns, but from those that have, I have a question. My box is currently RH 9 with lots o’ Rawhide/Dag/FreshRPMs/ATRPMs loaded on. Do you think the upgrade will work OK, or am I looking at a complete teardown and reinstall? (I’m assuming there is an Upgrade path in Severn’s Anaconda, I guess.) 2003-10-13 8:53 pm >Do you think the upgrade will work OK If it is of any help… I’m currently running Fedora, and I started with a Phoebe installation. Just use apt-rpm with a rawhide repository, and all will be OK (some care must be exercised, of course From the package list at DistroWatch, I seem to be running Fedora test3 already! apt-rpm rules! 2003-10-13 8:53 pm I dunno what you guys are looking at, but that link above lists the latest packages. gcc 3.3.1 gnumeric 1.2.0 that is DEFINATELY test3 packages… 2003-10-13 9:00 pm They ship: 1. Gcc-compat 7.3 (GCC 2.96) 2. GCC 3.2 3. GCC 3.3 I wonder if mozilla is compiled with Gcc3.3 if I could get the java plugins. In the past the only way to get them was to use blackdown that had 2.95 and 3.2 binaries. Sun only made the 2.95 binaries available. 2003-10-13 9:02 pm I see that Fedora core now comes with yum. Anyone ever used this tool before? Is it better than apt-rpm? 2003-10-13 9:02 pm quote “Package List for Severn test 2” that is by DEFINITION test2 packages…. 🙂 2003-10-13 9:04 pm Sun has their Java with a gcc 3.2 compiled plugin available. And I don’t think 3.2 and 3.3 are so incompatible that it won’t work. But, binary incompatibility has bitten me before so YMMV. 2003-10-13 9:12 pm Use the latest (1.4.2). On Mandrake, 1.4.1 do not work and I think it will not work under fedora too. 2003-10-13 9:18 pm Does this mean that Fedora will be the only freely d/l’able version of Red Hat? 2003-10-13 9:38 pm First, on distro watch they said that they are still using the old python. Is this true? Second, have there been any big improvements in the rhgb (redhat’s graphical boot)? 2003-10-13 9:39 pm OpenOffice _is_ at version 1.1 and is working great. 2003-10-13 9:39 pm quote “Package List for Severn test 2” that is by DEFINITION test2 packages…. 🙂 That must be an error on their part then because those are definately test3 pacakges. Gnumeric 1.2.0 was not in test2. 2003-10-13 11:24 pm What’s the deal with this Fedora project? What’s the difference between Fedora and RedHat 9? Victor. 2003-10-13 11:29 pm Fedora is red hat 10. But it won’t be called rh10 anymore and it will be a community project instead. 2003-10-13 11:34 pm Personally, I’m switching from RH9 to Slackware 9.1 soon… I’ll miss all the nice RH tools, but I can’t stand all of RH’s recent policy changes (especially errata for only a year Anyway, Slack seems pretty promising. 2003-10-13 11:36 pm so there will never be red hat anymore just fedora when did they do this. I never heard of it before. 2003-10-13 11:54 pm Several people on the fedora-test list are using YUM and really like it. Others are using apt-4-rpm. Tony Steidler-Dennison did a write up on YUM here: http://www.steidler.net/uptime/archives/000460.html I’m using apt-4-rpm (and have been for about 6 months now) and I love it. Both are supported by Fedora. Take care, -Frank Merenda 2003-10-14 12:05 am I was reading the (old) news about test2, and Eugenia mentioned 6 bugs on it (http://osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=4660&offset=30&rows=45). Have they fixed these bugs on test3? Also, does YUM and apt-4-rpm comes out-of-the-box, or you have to install it? And are they GUI or CLI? (sorry, i’m a Debian user, have no experience with YUM or apt-4-rpm). Victor. 2003-10-14 12:50 am Bug’s, don’t know I’m using bittorent to grab it now for a test spin. I believe (not 100% sure) that yum and apt will be there bye default install?? they are cli. apt4rpm is more or less the same commands you use in debian. apt-get <fill it in> apt-4-rpm, you can install “synaptic” too, you probably use this in Debian. (I do anyway) 2003-10-14 1:11 am DrillSgt: One reason they ship[ped] gcc32 and 33 is because the kernel did not compile with 3.3 2003-10-14 1:52 am just wondering where will the future RHCE exams be based? on Fedora Core or RH Enterprise? hmmm.. will there be a FCCE(Fedora Core Certified Engineer)? 2003-10-14 2:00 am Are you being serious or just trying to make a bad joke? RHCE’s don’t work on fixing home desktops, think about it for awhile. 2003-10-14 2:47 am I’m planning to take the exams 2003-10-14 2:54 am good, Enterprise 3 should be out some time soon. Good luck. 2003-10-14 3:04 am One reason they ship[ped] gcc32 and 33 is because the kernel did not compile with 3.3 Wouldn’t the next logical thing to do is to adjust the kernel so that it can compile with GCC 3.3.1? 2003-10-14 3:14 am good, Enterprise 3 should be out some time soon. It will be interesting to see when it will be released comsidering that they’re still adding new features like PIE. From the current rate of development, you’re probably looking at a release date of around January/February, which should also include a Opteron optimised version as well. 2003-10-14 5:34 am “I’ll miss all the nice RH tools, but I can’t stand all of RH’s recent policy changes (especially errata for only a year ” You’ll be missing out then Just today AAMOF it was announced that the community is going to pick up where RedHat left off and support older version of RedHat from 7.x to 9.x and provide security updates. Mailing list https://lists.dulug.duke.edu/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legacy-list This is fabulous news and once this gets rolling will be a great relief to people who want to continue to enjoy the stability and ease of use of Redhat linux while still being able to recieve important updates. 2003-10-14 2:55 pm Thanks for that! So Fedora Core will be good after all… (I’m still getting slack, might put it on another partition to experiment, but mainly for the older computers around here.) This is GREAT news for those administrators over at colleges and universities who have depended on RH for certain computers. 2003-10-14 3:48 pm “DrillSgt: One reason they ship[ped] gcc32 and 33 is because the kernel did not compile with 3.3” Thanks. I thought that may have been the caase but was not sure. Appreciate the answer. Regards 2003-10-14 3:52 pm I have been using Test3 since yesterday. I updated my Test2 installation and everything went fine. First time it’s actually worked like that. Anyways, installed ATI’s latest drivers for my Radeon 9500 PRO, recompiled a stock 2.4.22 kernel with some of my own options (NTFS Support, Pre-empt patch). I have to say that this is the slickest Linux Gnome Desktop I have ever installed. Big thing is that there is a BlueCurve-Slate and various other colors so now I can match the lovely bluecurve to some of my nicer backgrounds. Anyone who has been border line Linux switcher should grab the 1.0 release of Fedora, it’s gonna be a nice release. 2003-10-15 2:24 pm Regarding Red Hat, there *will* be a shrinkwrapped Red Hat box available again. It will be called ‘Red Hat Professional Workstation’. It will be priced $100 and it will come with a year upgrades (RHN) and limited support (web based?). This info is from the official mailing list. You won’t be able to download this version. Think of it as a product to fill the gap between Fedora (free, no support at all) and Enterprise Red Hat (expensive with loads of support) effectivily marketing the small home office market, like SUSE Professional. 2003-10-16 4:19 pm “Regarding Red Hat, there *will* be a shrinkwrapped Red Hat box available again. It will be called ‘Red Hat Professional Workstation’. It will be priced $100 and it will come with a year upgrades (RHN) and limited support (web based?). This info is from the official mailing list.” Interesting. Any idea of what this will be based on? Will this be fedora with the RH logos thrown into it? No information on the RH site concerning it except that it will exist. They actually make it sound like it does exist. Maybe they are just trying to sell more RH 9?