Macworld goes undercover to reveal 40+ Mac OS X 10.3 Tips and Tricks here. Elsewhere, if you work in an environment where you need to manage a large number of Macs (such as in a classroom), you might want to take a look at Apple’s Remote Desktop. Using this pricy but effective software, you can easily control and manage all of the Macs on the network. Also, MacOSRumors details some of the planned features and marketing points for Mac OS X 10.4 (preliminary code-name “Merlot”).
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Can we get over this “Mac is dying” mantras? Oh, and Eugenia, good job of the preview feature.
A few minor corrections, mod me down afterwards:
“Using this pricy but effective software, you can easily control and manage all of the Macs on the network.”
Should read:
“Using this pricey but effective software, you can easily control and manage all of the Macs on a network.”
Built-in XGrid!
It is a copy/paste from the OReilly article.
How much does the Windows XP Pro remote desktop addon cost?
Good job, you are really staying on top of this troll. This is the second heat & power troll in the last 2 Apple articles.
So far your basis for both trolls is that since there are no G5 laptops and iMacs, Apple must be lying about the heat output and power consumption of the G5. Show some facts where Apple has lied about this.
Free!, I was waiting for someone to point that out. XP’s remote desktop is actually a useful feature that has been a long time coming.
Dude, you are pathetic. I saw all your posts in that other apple thread the other day. You are such a baby.
My don’t you follow the age old advice of “if you don’t have anything nice to say, then don’t say anything at all.” You are the classic definition of a troll. There are some Apple articles for us Mac users to discuss and you feel the need to come out and bash it all just for the sake of bashing it.
Shut up already. Better yet, go away and don’t come back.
I think the hand is invisible because…
Another rumour is the Invisible Hand is Thurrot.
Hmmm, Apple ‘trying’ again to achieve better code? Oh god help us… they want to improve? It’s been such a pleasure working in OS X compared to XP… IMHO… Yes, I work with both… not coding but graphics editing and creation…
the hand just want’s to whine… Eugenia please moderate down anything from this creature
Oh, I don’t know, elegance? Source code for the base system? The ability to use most Unix (open source and otherwise) and Mac programs, as well as a good number of other third party proprietary ones? The ability to seemlessly integrate with damned near any network I’ve ever seen in a businuess environment? Quiet, cool running computers? Pretty damned good audio and video technologies? XGrid?
Truely, the modern Mac is built not just for Apple’s traditional markets, but also for science and technology. ith each new release of Mac OS X they integrate more and more functionality, and the security of the system is by far greater than that of Windows, and I would wager that it’s far better than your average Linux distribution’s as well.
I could go on, but I think I’ve given enough of the basic reasons as to why one would want to buy a Mac in this day and age.
This is an aside, but since we’re talking Mac stuff…
Appleinsider has posted some cool screenshots of the upcoming MS Office 2004 for the Mac:
http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=404
I especially like the Notebook thing. Very cool.
HA! How could Apple be telling lies about the power consumption and heat disapation when they aren’t even the ones claiming it!! Those numbers come from IBM, who make G5s, and they are no lies, I garentee it. If they were, all of IBMs other PPC970 customers would be going crazy because their prototypes would be bursting into flames.
If your going to make stuff up, I suggest you at least try to look even a little bit credible… *LOL*
799.00 for an emac…. buy a basic dell setup and a monitor and its the same price or more…. give up the unaffordable thing already… i have an emac and its fantastic.
pricy or pricey, both are legitimate
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=pricy
The remote desktop in Windows XP can be very useful for home users. I use it to control two headless PCs, one that plays MP3s through my HiFi and another that’s used as a router/firewall.
Having to pay an extra $299 for a feature that’s built into Windows isn’t very appealing.
>>“It looks like everything that crazy guy at MacOSRumors writes these days is completely made up.”
I was going to saw the opposite. MOSR appears to have learned from its past mistakes and has been reporting rumors with as much reliability as any of the other major rumor sites. I don’t have a problem looking beyond their past and giving credit where credit is due.
“”The year of the G5” is exactly that. In three months, it will be a year since Jobs introduced the “G5″. And basically, that is all Apple has shipped on PPC970 for a year.”
Don’t forget the XServe based on 90nm process. That was major progress.
Considering the fact that the competition hasn’t done anything within the same time period… at worst they are on par with the industry… at best they are making steady progress.
>>>“A few one-processor Xserve G5’s hardly count.”
I disagree. A G5 in a blade server configuration is a major advancement. It lends credibility to the notion that we can expect a G5 in a laptop sometime inthe future…It shows that the PPC970 has the ability tcale very well.
>>>“The overall showing by Apple during “the year of the G5″ so far has been pathetic.”
Considering the fact that the PPC970 still eads the cosumer desktop arena in speed and is on par with all high-end workstations… I’d say you are wrong. The progress that has been made has been nothing short of remarkable.
>>>“For all of Apple’s *total lies* regarding the PPC970’s low power and heat consumption”
Lies? The PPC970 has very low power. Its heat consumption is high, but MUCH lower than comperable processors of similar power. Every claim thaey made thus far has been right on the money.
>>>“there is no G5 laptop, no G5 iMac.”
Are you thinking that it can’t or that it wont? In either case Apple never promised either… sore your liar accusations are completely baseless. In any event, these computers will be equipped with a G5 soon enough… I believe the iMac will be first (In the next few months) and the powerBook after that when the PPC970 goes to .65 nm process.
>>>“It is clear Apple is just about moving backwards compared to Windows and Linux.”
Wuh? Considering the fact that of nearly all areas where Apple competes it is leaps and bounds ahead of Windows and Linux… its obvious you’re just a troll.
>>>“And the market share numbers attest to this.”
Market share doesn’t tell us anmything other than sales for 1 quarter… it doesn’t show the ratio of users for a particular market. Regardless, most people don’t *choose* Windows… its thrown upon them.
“The global market share for Mac OS X is about 0.5% and falling.”
The global “market share” of OS X is 2.3 % and yes… it is dropping… however… its install base is growing by leaps and bounds. THe OSes install base has never been higher.
However, because market sahre is such a misleading number… no wonder you like to propigate it. You seem to deal solely in FUD.
>>>“It is getting more and more confusing why someone should buy a Mac”
I don’t see how you come to that conclusion. The Mac has MANY uniqe advantages (too long to list herer) that make it a far better computer for many people than the competition.
>>“unless you are simply a luxury consumer and want a machine that 99%+ of people cannot afford.”
Considering the fact that a Mac cost no more than a comperabvly equipped PC… your point is moot.
Macosrumors has a very bad trackrecord, so I wouldn’t really pay much attention to their articles. It generally is just a wishlist..
Eugenia,
Thank you for modding down this troll. He’s back with the same lies about Apple’s market share being 0.5 %, as well as rubbish about the G5.
I have never really been a fan of Apple; I must admit that there is some solid designs in their towers. As for OS X? Looks interesting and seems real stable. I did some test with a local Apple rep and put a G5 through its paces. That involved running several large apps, video and so forth. I was impressed that that there was no interruption in sound or video. I decided to break out the terminal and did a “ps -aux” and was quite impressed with the numbers. I dont remember the about of CPU usaga and so forth. But it did catch my eye.
I will say one thing and I am serious. I CANNOT STAND the one button mouse. Sorry Apple fans but the darn thing drives me batty. And no I dont mean to shout. Other than that, I can see why people dig OS X. I would actually use it over Win XP any day (maybe even over w2k).
” I CANNOT STAND the one button mouse. Sorry Apple fans”
Three button mouse drivers are included in OS X… I use a Macally on my ol’powerbook and a (dare-I-Say-it) a Microsoft Wireless Optical on my G4. It is kinda funny ’cause a lot of Apple’s Pro-Apps recommend three button (scrollwheelin’) mice, an example would be Final Cut Pro. Go figure.
Sidenote: thanks Eugenia for mod–ing down some useless trolling
I used Remote Desktop in WinXP Pro prior to switching to Linux. Now running SuSE Pro 9.0 which also includes Remote Desktop for free just as it was in WinXP. Apple already knowing that this feature is included in their competitors OS decide it’s in their best interest to charge for Remote Desktop access. Are the Apple big wigs all smoking pot? I would think they would treat this as a free update for OSX users, not another Apple gimmick to charge more money on Apple consumers.
“I CANNOT STAND the one button mouse. Sorry Apple fans but the darn thing drives me batty.”
You can pick up an unboxed 2 button optical mouse for only a few $ so I can’t see why it’s such a problem.
OSXVNC server works great for most cases. Chicken of the VNC is a good Mac VNC client. Both are GPL.
“I used Remote Desktop in WinXP Pro prior to switching to Linux. Now running SuSE Pro 9.0 which also includes Remote Desktop for free just as it was in WinXP. Apple already knowing that this feature is included in their competitors OS decide it’s in their best interest to charge for Remote Desktop access. Are the Apple big wigs all smoking pot? I would think they would treat this as a free update for OSX users, not another Apple gimmick to charge more money on Apple consumers.”
The remote desktop in XP and the default ones on Linux are not the same thing as Apples. Those are for one on one desktop sharing, while Apple’s is for graphically administering hundreds of computers at once. The remote desktop client is free with the regular OS X client and is installed by default. There’s also many VNC based desktop sharing applications available.
and it is really useless to manage an entire network.
for direct user support it is good…I mean, who wants to get out of their chair when all you need to do is pull the task bar up for the person…. but you cannot manage the entire network from it.
RDC for OSX on the other hand not only allows you to take control of another computer remotely, but it also lets you manage the entire network in aggregate, so I can change settings or other such things on all the Computers at once.
The management features are useful.. if they really work. In terms of display speed I found VNC to be much quicker. Browse the old discussions about the bugs and problems in ARD if you decide to invest in it. Apple doesnt always get it right. AppleMailServer anyone? where did that go?
2/3 button mouse. I hope you all dont think I was trolling. I think that the G5 has a lot of strengths. I really never looked into the fact of a 2 button mouse. Most of my hardware is intel/amd based. I will keep that in mind for the future.
On a side note: Has Apple gotten around to updating the man pages in OS X through a service pack? 10.2 wasnt update and it seems like 10.3 hasnt been updated from what I remember. From what I remember; the fstab and sysctl/sysctl.conf man pages havent been updated.
Does sysctl.conf go into /etc, just curious. Any tips would be appreciated. FYI: I found some info on OpenDarwin about the fstab. Not sure how much applies to the OS X 10.3.
>> You can pick up an unboxed 2 button optical mouse for only a few $ so I can’t see why it’s such a problem. <<
its a problem cause there’s no option to not purchase a mouse when u order a mac system. Why should i be paying for a mouse to never even use it. apple charges 69.00$cnd for an apple pro (hardly pro) mouse. why cant i omit it and get my mac at 69.00$ less. better yet, at least offer third party mice.
i just dont like mac zealots telling people that mice are so cheap and to just buy another one if they dont like. why should i be paying for something i dont want, or wont use. oh, and im sorry, but a good mouse (not a cheapo 2 button, scroll wheel one) is hardly 20$.
Sorry about the bad grammer, I should have proofed it.
for one week …. they are imo the best computers on the market.
OSX is stable and fun to use. I think both, MS and Linux-GUI developers can learn a lot from Apple as far as user expirience and stability are concerned.
“799.00 for an emac…. buy a basic dell setup and a monitor and its the same price or more….
give up the unaffordable thing already… i have an emac and its fantastic. ”
Not to sound like a troll but, do you know what kind of pc I could build you for 800 bucks?
Our Microcenter sells athlon 64 3000+’s with a mother board for 350. Lets do some math,
Athlon64 3000+ and m’ board = 350
40 gig HardDisk = 50
cd/dvd burner = 100
128mb Nvidia card = 120
512 ddr ram = 100
case, fans, mouse,keyboard = 100
custom built Gentoo system,
with a lifetime of free updates = free!
———————————————————
Total = 780
Which would you chose, this, or that eMac? Opps this one dosen’t have a crt display.
Darn. I’ll just have to suffer with my ldc display.
I hope this stays formated correctly, I’m in ABrowse, syllable’s webbrowser. This thing does a good job
of messing things up.
“I hope this stays formated correctly, I’m in ABrowse, syllable’s webbrowser. This thing does a good job
of messing things up. ”
Nope, all the spaces are gone.
“You can pick up an unboxed 2 button optical mouse for only a few $ so I can’t see why it’s such a problem.”
its a problem cause there’s no option to not purchase a mouse when u order a mac system. Why should i be paying for a mouse to never even use it. apple charges 69.00$cnd for an apple pro (hardly pro) mouse. why cant i omit it and get my mac at 69.00$ less. better yet, at least offer third party mice.
How is the above issue any different to Dell giving an ultra-crappy selection of mice? how about their really crappy selection of video cards? I don’t want ATI or Nvidia, I want a Matrox card.
The fact is, if you don’t like it, buy a new one. I’ve upgraded from the standard professional mouse to a Microsoft Blue Optical Mouse for as little as $60 from Harvey Norman. The price, IHMO is not excessive.
Apple offers what *they* consider what the majority want. If there was an overwhelming demand for mice with two buttons, they would provide it, however, there isn’t. The fact is, that has what made Apple always unique, the operating system and the one button mouse.
True Remote Desktop in WinXP and SuSE is intended for networking two machines for remote login to do maintenance, etc. Such as SuSE’s “Remote Access” that comes with two services “Remote Desktop Connection” and “Remote Desktop”.
Since you implied that Apple is refering to network connection setup for multiple machines then this is similer to Samba. SuSE Pro of which includes not only Samba Server and Client but also other server applications as part of the package. If this is what Apple has intended for networking then the name they have chosen only confuses the public. Why I say this is because the term “Remote Desktop” is already used by both Linux and Microsoft and as you implied means something totally differant to Apple.
Not to sound like a troll but, do you know what kind of pc I could build you for 800 bucks?
The kind that runs Windows?
defcon-1:
Your assessment of a $780 computer system vs. an emac is not valid. In order to make a valid “apples to apples” comparison (no pun intended), you must include in your cost:
1. The going price of a commercially supported OS with similar features to OS X. This means either Windows XP Pro (XP Home is a crippled version) or something like a boxed, supported Red Hat Pro or SuSe Pro. Furthermore, the type of person buying an eMac does not have the skill set to maintain a Gentoo system.
2. A 17″ CRT. If the eMac offers one, then a valid comparable system must include one in its cost. While many people re-use old monitors, others get newer or better ones. Other people are getting a computer for the first time and are starting from scratch (yes, not everyone has a computer yet).
Your $780 figure must be upwards adjusted by at least $200 – $300 to be a comparable offering to the eMac.
When someone buys an eMac, they have usually been looking for a Machine that is a combination of;
• Cheap
• Supported by a large Corporation
• All Inclusive
• Stylish (arguable)
• Runs MacOSX
• Integrated with complete support for their Digital Camera, DV Camera, Mobile Phone
People who purchase a Generic PC running GNU/Linux usually require a combination of;
• Cheap
• Supported by a Community
People who purchase a Generic PC running Windows XP usually require a system which is;
• Cheap
• Supported by a large Corporation (arguable)
• Supported by a Community and 3rd Party Companies
• Run Games or Specific 3rd Party Software
• Adequate support for their Digital Camera, DV Camera, Mobile Phone.
It all comes down to personal Preference, but the fact that the eMac runs MacOSX is worth at least $140…
Meanwhile One Button Mice really do suck, but on a Laptop, Two button Trackpads suck. I’m happy with my iBook with single-button Trackpad. I use my Logitech TrackMan Wheel when I’m at my Desk.
Oh, god, let’s not rehash this again. The eMac line is very sub-par for its price. The G4 is just a really slow CPU for anything remotely multimedia intensive. I use an 800MHz G4 iMac all the time at our labs. Its a very useful machine because of all the UNIX tools, but its quite slow.
If I had $800 to spend, I would feel cheated spending it on an eMac instead of the much more powerful PC I could buy for that price. Once you get into G5 territory, the Apple hardware is pretty reasonably priced, but only until prices on the Opteron start coming down, which they will once Intel releases their 64-bit competitor.
“one of our most reliable sources familiar with Apple’s OS development operations Cupertino expects to settle for nothing less than 85-90% of the gains that can be made by re-compiling and re-writing code for the G5”
Surely they pulled that out of their ass, or someones playing with them. Hey, if its true then I’ll be quite happy (and pissed off that my existing Panther would be that slow before!) but I just don’t believe it. Macosrumors’ accuracy is dismall, I find ThinkSecret.com to be much more accurate and less bullshit. Rumors are rumors, and you can only (or should only!) report what you hear, but ThinkSecret seems to contain less crap then Macosrumors.
The only “feature” I want from Mac OS X 10.4 is a true 64-bit kernel and ability to host truely 64-bit apps. Sure, most apps don’t need to be 64-bit but many others do. All else is relative, I’m sure the UI will be tweaked even further or some more iApps of some sort will be released. Spiffy keen, but I don’t use most of those “hundreds” of features in Panther as it is. No complaint tho, keep ’em coming. Becoming even faster too would be a nice bonus, a trend with every Mac OS X release it seems. A welcome one too.
“Not to sound like a troll but, do you know what kind of pc I could build you for 800 bucks?”
No, I don’t consider that a troll, just PC thinking. Sigh, I sound like a Mac user…well anyways, even if the PC you could build for that much is loads faster, you don’t get the OS and thats why Mac users are Mac users, the OS! Not so much the hardware. Unless I wanted to do serious number crunching (scientific, 3D, CAD, video, etc) or gaming I wouldn’t need all that powerful of a machine for normal day to day tasks (email, music, web browsing, paper writing, etc – normal people things) then I’d take the eMac at the drop of a hat. Slower? Who cares? Performance isn’t everything, user experience IMO is much more important and in that the eMac wins. I dig Gentoo as well, but I’d never recommend it to my mother.
“Oh, god, let’s not rehash this again. The eMac line is very sub-par for its price. The G4 is just a really slow CPU for anything remotely multimedia intensive. I use an 800MHz G4 iMac all the time at our labs. Its a very useful machine because of all the UNIX tools, but its quite slow.”
Max it outs RAM and come back to me. Mac OS X is /very/ RAM hungry, and chances are your lab’s eMac has the standard 128 or 256 megs of RAM. The CPU, although slow by modern standards, is not the primay bottleneck. I, personally, think its fine for multimedia tasks – just give it RAM. I maxed my sister’s iBook RAM out and it felt like a whole new machine, and I know thats said alot. Going from 128 to 640 megs was like doubling the CPU; it was a huge kick in the pants.
Someone may have posted this already, but….
Win XP Pro Retail $299 per copy
MacOS X 10.3 Retail $129 per copy (if you do not get a volume discount)
Apple Remote Desktop Unlimited Clients $499
50 Computers
Windows – 299×50= $14,950
MacOS X – 129×50= 6,450+499(ARD)= $6,949
Now lets see…. if we want to see the savings (time is very important, and worth money (that we will not calculate here)
Windows Install Cost $14,950 (heh, we havent even added the fees per computer that MS wants to charge you) subtract the MacOS X Install cost (witch doesnt have hidden fees per client) $6,949 that would simply = $8,001
And if you would read info on the product you would know that there are many features you cannot do with Remote Desktop for Windows, and some features that turned from ‘Writing a push script’ to 3 clicks of a button.
Anyways… Go figure that people would pay much more for an Operating System that you have to maintain and fix on a ‘work shift’ instead of “Alright, looks like your Personal web server was turned off, simply click this button to enable it”
While you can set up a Windows peer to peer, let’s use your 50 computers as an example… if you wanted to have a server deal with these computers… how much does it cost to add in a Windows 2003 server w/50 licences vs. a Mac OS X Server? Let’s use the lowest usage here wher i/o ain’t too much of a problem and diskspace does not require anything more than a single desktop unit (let’s not get into G5 servers et al).
Also, let’s NOT get into linux at the moment… we’re discussing Win & Mac and I don’t want to start a discussion that will bring up ease of set up etc. Just Win and Mac okay… I know Linux would be a viable alternative and that can be discussed AFTER.
How did this turn into a poo fling contest? Come on guys act your age. The only people this affects is their Apple customers, not Linux users or Windows users. It’s great to point out cost comparisons from Windows vs Linux vs Apple but this has started to get off topic. Discuss the article and leave your rightous egos out of it.
the point of the comment was not to price compare, but to point out that the comment “99% of people cannot afford a mac” is a total and complete lie.
Sorry if I seemed to be off target, but I realy would like to know the significance of administrating a Mac network… by using Remote Desktop, I ASSUME that the Mac network would not only be easier, but cheaper. The cost of changing over from a PC to a Mac environment is a costly one and seeing the cost over a few years can justify a change over… well one IT guy can run a few hundred Macs/PCs…
So if I’m off topic, I am sorry… but I don’t believe so. I am not trying to flame, troll or start anything. The people that are affected by a network environment is not limited to Mac’s here. They ALL coexist on networks rather nicely… At home I use Windows and Macs (Win98/Win2000/OS X/OS9/OS8.6) and at work we use, mostly a Sun Sparc which is terminalled by WinXP/Win98/Win2000 and occaisonally my Mac). So… comparing a Remote system brings up the comaprison to other platforms… good, maybe we can make sense out of all the features that are usable and the reasons behind them
Jb
The article tells users to “1-click on the Dock icon, drag it a short distance from the Dock, press the option key, release the 1 key, and then let go”. It’s been over ten years since I last touched a Mac, so I’m not up to date on the jargon.
Does the “1 key” here refer to the digit 1 that is located near Tab and Q on PC keyboards, or does the number have some special meaning, like M- means the meta key in Emacs? Because other user interfaces (Windows, GNOME, Emacs) use only keys like Control and Shift as modifiers for mouse actions; not keys that have an effect when pressed alone.
If it’s really the digit, does OS X also assign meanings to the nine other digit keys when used together with the mouse?
I’m not sure why the article says press the 1 key. If you press the command key when it says press the 1 key all of the tips in the article work.
No offense taken just some of the posts seem to get out of hand by some people. Anyway you raise a valid point. Whether you are using a cross platform network at home or at work I can’t see Apple’s solution as being very cost effective. It would be cheaper to use Linux solutions such as the tools included with Novell’s SuSE Pro or RedHat Enterprise in a cross network. I haven’t used the Remote Access tools such as Remote Desktop that comes with SuSE Pro but have heard from other users that it works even with WinXP to do remote login connections. SuSE Pro 9.1 when released will cost less than anything out there for network setup which is to also include Samba3. See link below for more info on SuSE 9.1 and Samba3. Maybe an experienced IT person familiar with Apple can do an impartial cost comparison. Also will this tool from Apple only work on Apple machines or is it like Samba that can work on cross network platforms?
http://www.suse.com/en/private/products/suse_linux/preview/prof.htm…
http://www.samba.org/
I hate to add to the “poo fling” (haha, I love that term!), but I just wanted to make a couple of points:
A. I have a Dual 2Ghz G5. It’s nice and fast. I also have an iMac G4 800Mhz. Not as fast, but I use it all the time for all kinds of stuff (mostly graphic design work beyond the using Web surfing/e-mail/text editing/etc.). I also have an iBook G3 600Mhz. It works just fine for me on any task not too strenuous. My point? If my 800Mhz iMac runs just fine, I’m sure a 1Ghz eMac runs fine too for 90% of the average Joe’s and Jane’s out there. Geek power users here don’t realize that the kind of power you can get out there with top-of-the-line CPUs in both the x86 and PowerPC families is WAY OVERKILL for most people.
B. I completely disagree with the “Mac users use Macs because of the OS, not the hardware” mentality. Completely and utterly disagree. I use a Mac because of the hardware AT LEAST AS MUCH as because of the OS. In fact, if I were given a choice and both options were possible, I’d much rather run Windows on an Apple computer than on an x86 box. Of course, given the choice between Windows on Apple and OS X on x86, I might grudgingly and with deep reservations go for the OS X/x86 choice, but ya know what? OS X on PPC suites me just fine!!!
If I were the only person on the planet who thought that the x86 chip platform stinks, I wouldn’t care. I’d still say that I think the x86 chip platform stinks. There. I said it.
Regards,
Jared
if Intel could get the heat under control and stop wasting electricity to make up for the leakage problems thy have, their CPUs might be worth the money.
“If I were the only person on the planet who thought that the x86 chip platform stinks, I wouldn’t care. I’d still say that I think the x86 chip platform stinks. There. I said it.”
But it’s okey to replace the processor and then suddenly it doesn’t stink anymore?!? Bullshit.
“1 Key” is an error in the article. Everywhere you see that term substitute with “command key” aka “apple key” -> the key immediately to the left and right of the space bar on most Mac compatible keybords.
that made absolutely no sense.
>> and the security of the system is by far greater than that of Windows, and I would wager that it’s far better than your average Linux distribution’s as well.
Wagering like how you’ve done is how you lose money in vegas. Linux and Mac OS X both use the PAM security model, by that token, they’re the same.
If you want to argue that some linux distributions open up all the ports
like telnet and ftp, then I’ll give you that by default the mac is more secure,
but it’s not all that different from linux.
The only reason mac os x is more secure is probably because of the high
price tag for getting hardware.
I personally own a couple of macs and love those damned things.
try narrowing your statement on the price of their hardware…an eMac costs 799…
that is not a high price.
http://www.apple.com/macosx/server
read about ‘netboot’ You can boot as many macs without hard drives over the network as you want…
jason, you do realize you can ebay the mouse when you buy the mac right? a lot of people do this, as evident by http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?cgiurl=http%3A%2F~…
and a lot of people buy them. you get your money back.
I’ve never heard anyone who actually has an eMac say anything good about it…except for those who post at OSnews. Hmmm….
JK–
You’re comparing Apples to Oranges. Apple Remote Desktop is a very different beast compared to the limited access granted by Window RDC.
Why not take the time to actually know what you’re talking about!!!
If you want to know what Apple’s Remote Desktop does follow this link, otherwise I’d advise you stop posting such nonsense!
http://www.apple.com/remotedesktop/
I don’t know… Maybe in the future it might be a good thing for those who post articles to define what they’re talking about because when it comes to knowledge of other platforms there is very little of it on the board.