“AROS has finally got a new, faster and smarter file system: Michal Schulz has ported SFS to the Amiga Research Operating System, so opening and saving lots of files won’t take ages anymore, but just few seconds. Neil Cafferkey has written a Intel Pro/100 NIC driver, allowing support for i8255x family of network adapters. Marcel ‘Frostwork’ Unbehaun has created an AROS/PPC Live-CD for Pegasos computers.”
It’s good that they’re creating clone of the AmigaOS. I’ve used AmigaOS only in UAE, but I like it very much (never had Amiga because of its price).
Even these days, price of e.g. Amiga 4000 is a joke. You can buy quite powerful PC for that kind of money.
I’ve tried to get my hands on some Amiga hardware, not only is the price a joke but it’s also a hassle to get the stuff! It would have been cheaper to get a Pegasos at that time (no AmigaOS 4 systems back then). AROS is not only the best way to go for Amiga fans but most likely the only one. The community is not big enough for AmigaOS 4 and MorphOS and who knows what the price of PowerPC hardware will be after Apple finally starts selling Intel boxes? FLOSS is bringing us an OS revival, just to0 bad that the hardware scene looks more and more x86 (and arm for embedded).
“Even these days, price of e.g. Amiga 4000 is a joke. You can buy quite powerful PC for that kind of money.”
Amiga 4000 is a rare vintage collector item. People who want one don’t buy it – or any other Amiga hardware for that matter – becuase of its price/performance ratio. It’s dumb to expect such a purhace to make any sense on that factor.
People use Amigas use them because they have that “little something”. Call it soul, call it usability, call it whatever – it’s just something that other systems lack.
>People use Amigas use them because they have that “little something”. Call it soul, call it >usability, call it whatever – it’s just something that other systems lack.
The Guru Meditation? 😉
>People use Amigas use them because they have that “little something”. Call it soul, call it >usability, call it whatever – it’s just something that other systems lack.
The Guru Meditation? 😉
For those that weren’t lucky enough to own a real Amiga I’ll explain the joke. The “guru meditation” was the Amiga equivalent of the “blue screen”, originally called this because guru’s could meditate on the error message to determine the problem.
If you want to see a *somewhat* decent example of the Guru in action, go download and run the xscreensaver package that seems to running on everything, and give it a whirl…
The meditation as I saw it game from trying to mentally decipher the hexadecimal ASCII strings that would indicate the software / hardware problem… Heck, most often IIRC, you would even see the word HELP displayed in that message…
It seems like there are a lot of people who watch the Amiga from the outside, don’t talk a lot, and don’t participate…waiting quietly for something to happen. I hope people take more of an interest in AROS (especially those with coding skills I lack.) as it could really use the boost. (I have donated money when I can.) Nice to see it keep getting new features added and new drivers. Keep it up guys, I would love to dump XP from my PC get AROS on there fulltime.
I dunno, if you run an Amiga for a while and you compare that with emulation, you’ll see differences after a while. You just can’t replace the real deal, PC’s have no soul.
You just can’t replace the real deal, PC’s have no soul.
PCs (note the lack of apostraphe) have plenty of soul – enough to dominate the industry. Is this what you mean by “no soul”?
There are many pedantic reasons why x86 suxors, but the truth is that only x86 has the combination of usability, ubiquity, marketability, and openness that has allowed several marketplaces to develop on it.
AMD bet on it with their AMD64/Opteron, and they won. Intel bet on it repeatedly against technically “superior” competition (EG: MIPS, sparc, et al) and won with X86.
It has its warts, (no solutions doesn’t!) but no other platform has had the combination of technical “it works”, cross-vendor compatability, marketability, and OS openness of x86.
It could even be argued that Linux wouldn’t exist without the cheap, widely available power of x86. So, love it, hate it, whatever – but don’t diss x86!
It could even be argued that Linux wouldn’t exist without the cheap, widely available power of x86. So, love it, hate it, whatever – but don’t diss x86!
Right. So, we shouldn’t diss Windows either? After all, Windows is the x86 of the software world!
The fact that x86 is the dominant platform doesn’t mean you shouldn’t criticise it. x86 has not become the dominant platform due to technical superiorty– it has done so because of its cheapness and ubiquity. And the x86 world leaves A LOT to be desired. For instance, people claim how ‘open’ x86 is– but why don’t they all run an open BIOS or open firmware? SPARC and PPC are more open, you know!
I have pegasosppc G4 and 3 OS. This trinity apply all from my needs. MorphOS fast as hell and very eye-candy, Linux simple almighty, and MacOS X has industry-standart apps like Adobe CS, MS Office, etc.
There is no place for wintel.
> PCs (note the lack of apostraphe) have plenty of soul –
> enough to dominate the industry. Is this what you mean
> by “no soul”?
If you have to ask what he means by “no soul”, then you clearly have no clue.
Which makes the rest of your response meaningless.
Can anyone with a Pegasos system tell readers if the AROS/PPC port is a native port, or if it is running on top of Linux?
Look at http://www.pegasos.org – AROS LiveCD for PegasosPPC available for torrenting
Hi, this Aros Live CD for Pegasos runs on top of a Gentoo
kernel, i have it installed on my Peggy.
@ Everybody:
It is obvious that a LIVE CD is often based on Linux flavours…
…because Live CD based on Linux Kernels are quite easy to be realized, and run quite flawlessly.
Pegasos (PPC) AROS LIVE CD seems to be launched by Gentoo environment.
No wonder at all about such a simple boot solution.
Although we should check if (when running the Live CD) there could had been stored a program to install AROS on the Hard Disk, avoiding LIVE CD and booting by itself.
Be careful, because any HDInstall or install or installHD AROS program could overwrite all your existing data &/or previous OSes.
Ciao,
Raffaele
It’s linux hosted right now. I run AROS/PPC on top of Fedora Core 4 on my iMac DV+.
I recently stopped using my PC in favour of an (eBay) powermac G4 because I prefer the available software
I dont see equally convincing solutions available for the Amiga. My switch was easy because a lot of s/w I already use is crossplatform
I just joined in to start coding for AROS. I’m not an OS developer, I thought I’d try to help on the application side of it. I’m running AROS native on a Pentium 3, and it flies. Native GCC makes it nice to develop, although if anyone wants advice before installing AROS to start coding, be prepared for an almost total lack of documentation on the internet! This platform is “young”!
You can not observe a soul with pure mind…
…scientific probing…
…soul has to be experienced, then and only then will you know.
So…anyone care to actually comment on the new port of SFS?
Curious me: where is it ported from (Amiga)?
So…anyone care to actually comment on the new port of SFS?
I have my laptop set with SFS as the AROS boot partition (yes, it can boot from SFS when set properly). Copying the boot CD to the harddrive with AFS used to take more than an hour. It takes less than 4 minutes with SFS. Starting DOOM off the harddrive with AFS used to take 11 minutes. It takes less than 2 seconds with SFS. I don’t think more needs to be said.
Curious me: where is it ported from (Amiga)?
The version AROS uses was the Classic Amiga code. The MorphOS version wasn’t used due to license issues (from what I understand).
When I registered, no that’s not true gave a donation, to the people behind SFS, I jokingly said the money was for Classic and OS4, but not Bloody MorthOS and they said they we’nt developing for MorphOS. Can’t quite remember the reason why.
I just thougth I’d share that with you!
And I was only joking about MorphOS, I’d like to see it do as well as possible!
I would suspect it should have a APL kind of license making it… free
Actually the Guru Meditation Error comes from Team Amiga’s old Atari 2600 days. They had built this sort of surf board controller for the 2600 that you were supposed to stand on.
Anyhow they would sit on this thing in lotus posistion and try to keep it balanced, if they slipped and fell, they would call that a Guru Meditation Error.
Later this message was added to Amiga OS as an inside joke of sorts.