Behind the scenes, painstaking effort and computing power has gone into cleaning up George Lucas’s original Star Wars trilogy for its recent DVD release. 600 Mac G5s. And btw, the Star Wars III teaser will be released in less than 15 days.
Macs do Star Wars dirty work
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woot!!!
oh, I looked at the new iMacs today at CompUSA, not bad.
i am expecting to get my new iMac G5 this week and i can’t wait. they are the best.
do you know that Microsoft is going to use G5 to create new videogames for
the new XBOX2!? Even Microsoft knows that Apple computers are the best.
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Once they get that down and prove the G5’s superior floating point unit then I’ll be impressed. I’ll be looking at doom 3 benchmarks for the mac if it ever comes out for the mac.
No, they are using an IBM PowerPC chip yet to be anounced, probably some varient of the PPC970, which is what Apple uses in their G5 computers.
What type of test do you conduct with InDesign CS? I use a G4 with InDesign CS and I never have any preformace issue with slow downs of any sort. Maybe some slow screen redraws issue, but that can be adjusted by changing setting or adding video-hardware NOT processor based.
Here’s a nice tutorial on how to create lightsabers with photoshop.
Take a stick, get a picture with yourself, and then play the Jedis…
http://www.theforce.net/theater/postproduction/sabres/sabertutorial…
Anyone around here who could write similar tutorials for PaintShopPro and/or Gimp? That would be cool.
>Anyone around here who could write similar tutorials for
>PaintShopPro and/or Gimp? That would be cool.
I do not knowabout PPP but the tutorial of the Gimp would be about 99,9% the same. There is not need to make a new one i followed the instructions (Gimp 1.3 and 2.0) and came with the exact same result.
I don’t think it can be clearly demonstrated that the G5s offer more performance than their AMD/Intel equivalent. Even Pixar, Steve Jobs’ other company, uses Intel hardware for their rendering farm, not G5s.
“Even Pixar, Steve Jobs’ other company, uses Intel hardware for their rendering farm, not G5s.”
Tha’s true, Pixar uses some pentium boxes for their rendering work. But that’s not all th story. Pixar has made public that they are migrating their production workstations to Powermac G5 wokstations running MacOsX. And as their have ported RenderMan on OsX, we just have to wait a little bit until they announce that they got some Xserves G5 for their rendering farm!!!!
>>If you can’t compare with an AMD or Intel multiprocessor systems. Why did u waste your money on a G5. Why not just buy a Intel or AMD?
OS X!
Weren’t the movies already restored for the 1997 VHS edition (20th anniversary)? What exactly they did this time?
they turned it into DVD. and added yet another round of debatable “enhancements” like hayden christensen appearing in ghost-like form at the end of return of the jedi
LOL
I read somewhere that they changed a lot of characters to match the 1,2 et 3 numbers including the emperor,
is that true ?
>>Even Microsoft knows that Apple computers are the best.
No, it shows they recognize a good IBM CPU when they see one, Apple doesn’t have anything to do with it.
If you are going to compare a Xeon or AMD-64 to PPC, than at least compare the PPC to a regular P4, and the AMD-64 and Xeon to a POWER 5.
Even Microsoft knows that Apple computers are the best.
No offence but Apple has really nothing to do with G5. G5 is IBM’s processor, based on POWER5 which is used in IBM’s Mainframe computer’s & High performance Desktops. PegasosPPC also uses G5- processors. Apple is *NOT* the only PPC supplier, you know.
Also Nintendo uses PPC-processor in Gamecube.
It has *nothing* to do with Apple. Does Gamecube anything to do with apple just because it uses PPC? Answer: No.
I think that IBM will come out on top.
PPC is just one of IBM’s processors, and not the highest performing. Yet it’s better than your typical Pentium.
According to the rumour MS’s developers for Xbox 2 are running a modfified version of win2k on the G5 Macs.
We’ve run some tests with Adobe Premiere Pro..
Did you have a chance to compare to Final Cut Pro?
PPC chips started with IBM, Apple and Motorola joining forces together. In that respect, they have all worked on the PPC designs.
What we don’t know is how much – or how little – they actually have worked together. So saying the IBM has created POWER5 all by them selves is not true (there are certain standards and designs which needs all partners agreements (for it to be a PPC chip)).
About Microsoft coping Apples choice of CPU for XBox2: That’s great news, as it will be much faster to convert games from XBox2 to Mac, and verse visa (like with Halo, which was created for the Mac first (never released though, because Microsoft was – once again – looking over Apples shoulder to see what they were into)).
Wow, all those computers and they still can’t make George Lucas seem like a good director.
Webmaster Terms
Word: PowerPC Alliance
Def: Apple Computer, Motorola, and IBM, who jointly developed the PowerPC microprocessor.
Umm?? I know Motorola was involved in the G4 chip but what did they do for the G5?
PegasosPPC also uses G5- processors
I don’t think so: Pegasos I uses G3, Pegasos II uses G4.
Many of the changes in the new DVD release were just color corrections which helped in alot of scenes. Cloud City got huge benefits with color correction, it seems much more massive now. They also added a few dialogue changes (mainly with the emperor, bubba fett, and a few with vader).
Most of the changes worked out well though some are questionable. Slashdot had a link to a website that showed vid captures of all the changes in th enew DVD release.
baah, am buying the alienware laptop, their highest specs(area 51 i think), that’ll put to shame the g5
baah, am buying the alienware laptop, their highest specs(area 51 i think), that’ll put to shame the g5
I doubt it, I/O on laptops uniformly sucks.
Also: Star Wars 3: Yawn. Episode 1 was bad, I didn’t bother to see episode 2, I doubt episode 3 will be any better.
About Microsoft coping Apples choice of CPU for XBox2: That’s great news, as it will be much faster to convert games from XBox2 to Mac,
Like all the Gamecube games that have been converted to the Mac?
and verse visa[i]
So the Mac would get XBOX2 games, and the XBOX2 would get…. escape velocity nova?
[i](like with Halo, which was created for the Mac first (never released though, because Microsoft was – once again – looking over Apples shoulder to see what they were into)).
You might want to let Bungie know because they seem to think that *they* created Halo, not Apple.
You might want to let Bungie know because they seem to think that *they* created Halo, not Apple.
I didn’t say Apple created Halo.
Like all the Gamecube games that have been converted to the Mac?
Well, you do have a point, but Nintendo creates most of the best games for Gamecube.
In an earlier article here, it said that Xeon and AMD 64 out perform PPC as a single processor, but they do not out perform PPC as a duel processor (Xbox2 is duel).
And POWER 5 is more related to server iseries, pseries, than to the desktop PPC.
So PPC is the fastest desktop in the world when you are running duel processors…very possibly.
A million pieces of dirt in a couple of rolls doesn’t looks like so “Unbelievable”… I do work as supervisor in movie restoration in Brazil and that’s a very common quantity of dirt (even for just one roll of the movie).
There’re several programs for different plataforms to remove dirt (and even more things) from scanned movies in some kind of (semi) automated form… This guy from the report has also worked in Indiana Jones movies, also telling everyone about his PPC clusters (so, maybe, he got some kind of sponsorship from Apple…). He das also worked in NASA in the past, creating programs to filter data collected from satellites’ “cameras”. He really knows a lot about this kind of work…
Also about film restoration. It’s a shame, but usually people react a lot more about the “simple” colour correction than the amount of work required to restore the damage that the time made into the picture…
“According to the rumour MS’s developers for Xbox 2 are running a modfified version of win2k on the G5 Macs.”
This isn’t only a rumour: it’s true.
Microsoft sents to your developers a pre-release of the XBOX 2 SDK (the PowerPC version of Windows XP kernel – it already exists as Windows Embedded kernel – with XNA developer IDE), with thanks to Apple in the credits, on PowerMac G5 2Ghz biprocessor with ATI Radeon 9800 Pro.
I hope one day anyone compiles Darwin on a cracked XBOX 2 and “mount” on top this Mac OS X. A G5 Mac for max 300$. 😀
Well I guess that Microsoft and IBM are wrong, and Intel is right, but nobody will ever know.
The PPC (running duel processors) is king. That’s why they are using it for Xbox2.
hmmm i dont know dude, according to their specs is they are also using the same stuff that ppl normally use in their desktops. Am drooling haha! cant wait for it.. need to save up some more.. My boss showed me the brand new G5’s, he bought 3 of them for the graphics designers, and am not impress, it runs sluggish, my P4 can outperform it.
You may be right, I looked at the wrong laptop. The really expensive gaming laptop uses a 7200-rpm (albiet 60GB) disk, which might get close to keeping up with the apple’s disk. And I/O is all that really matters unless you’re looking at a compute-only benchmark (or a game, but why buy a Mac to play games?).
Any speed a PC *might* have the advantage on gets erased by having to wait for Ad-aware and spybot to run all the time though.
This article sure brought out the trolls. The G5 is sluggish? What were you doing with it? No, don’t tell me. You used resizing windows as a ‘benchmark’.
The G5’s are nice chips. They have good floating point performance like what the article said. Don’t believe me? Check out http://www.fftw.org/speed/ for some FFT benchmarks that are really float intensive. The G5 handily beats the Opteron (32 bit and 64 bit) and the P4.
If you’re not a troll, provide some numbers.
Xeon beats PPC as a single processor, but it falls down flat when running duel processors, and the PPC scales way better. If you buy a G5 Mac with 2 processors, than nothing can touch your desktop. Servers are different story.
Wow, all those computers and they still can’t make George Lucas seem like a good director.
Ever heard of THX-1138? American Graffiti? George Lucas was once considered one of the best directors in Hollywood, which is the only reason he got the chance to make such a strange (at the time) film as Star Wars, and also how he miraculously landed a contract that reserved all merchandising profits, trademarks, etc. to himself.
>> Umm?? I know Motorola was involved in the G4 chip but what did they do for the G5?
Almost nothing. Apparently Motorola had a design for Apple but it was found to have more problems (due to glitches in its 0.13 micron process) then it was worth. Then in early 2002, Motorola ceased development on its ‘G5’ indefinitely because R&D funding was reduced greatly and they believed that their main market was embedded processors, rather than desktop ones. This really hurt Jobs and Apple asked IBM to make them a chip, the PPC 970. The rest is history.
Motorola Semi’s last contribution to Apple was to extract as much performance as they could with their existing G4 chips, with little success. I believe they eventually spun off(out?) to become Freescale.
There was a great comment about this when it was on Slashdot from a long time Apple fan. He basically said that it seemed like Macs were the “retarded brother” of the computer family, since people seem so proud that they were able to do something that a PC or SGI has done for ages.
“Yay! He ate dinner!” “Hey! He can edit a movie!”
He said that while he considered Apple products to be incredible, he thought that by constantly pointing out “hey we can do this too!”, it set them up for looking inferior. I thought it was an interesting take on it.
[Please don’t consider this a flame…]
Xbox 2 games have more of a chance to get ported to windows before anything. Besides from what I am hearing because of XNA windows games will get ported to XBOX 2 and vice versa plus the Xbox 2 controller will work on the PC. Anyways can someone show me this news of game developers recieving Macs for Xbox 2 game development because I hear these Mac zealots from all over the place talking about it and yet they don’t even bother linking a page or anything. Also wasn’t microsoft making their own cpu or something. I heard that one from a while back and thought that was kinda funny.
no numbers dude, wat were i doing? well first i played worlds of warcraft which was slow, and am using a T1 line, then tried opening different apps, u know jez getting the feel of it, so am telling u from wat i felt using the G5, and am not trolling. I guess i got accustomed to using my rig, a P4 using windows xp, its very responsive and i havent had any problems with it ever sinced
forgot something hehe, yeah the processor might me superior to x86, but i’ve seen macs perform and am not impress with it, including the G4’s… specifically the ibook.
“Anyways can someone show me this news of game developers recieving Macs for Xbox 2 game development because I hear these Mac zealots from all over the place talking about it and yet they don’t even bother linking a page or anything.”
Don’t you know Google? 😀
And don’t you read OSNews allways?
Anyway, search on this site or on TheRegister. 🙂
“forgot something hehe, yeah the processor might me superior to x86, but i’ve seen macs perform and am not impress with it, including the G4’s… specifically the ibook.”
Sorry, but I don’t belive you. 🙂
I think you have NEVER used a Mac, G5 or G4 is it.
http://www.macnn.com/news/23784
and? they use G5s for everything else.
You wish man! You wish! Or you are not man but a mere child? :rolleyes:
It doesn’t matter… You wish your rig is faster than a Dual G5… You WISH! :p
dude, face the facts, XP is fast and responsive when you are running 3 apps that are not i/o intensive and are not processor intensive. when you add in there processor intensive work and I/O intensive work, XP grinds to a halt, OS X does not.
so… WOW my window popped open faster because XP uses 80% of available memory as a cache for the UI!!! woo that is fantastic. to bad it causes more problems than it is worth.
BTW I believe this guy:
http://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2232&p=1
over you ESPECIALLY on the multitasking performance thing over people such as you ANYTIME…
Not that I really need him to say this kind of things… I own both a Dual G5/2 GHz and a PowerBook G4/1.25 and I know first hand if I can impress someone or not… Especially, from the dropped jaws of Wintel people that came close even to my humble G4 :p
ah, he is a PC fanboy who thinks anything out of intel is this massively great product. he will just say that annad was drunk or something.
I bought the trilogy and noticed the enhancement it looks really good! but is some spots i feel the over did the color saturation and for some reason the original squares around the tie fighters which were fixed in the special edition were back again. I am sure that the these problems wouldn’t be there if they had chosen a superior intel based processor like the Itanium 2….<joke>
Those idiots are using this “cluster Mac” as a cheap Apple advertisement. They are releasing, what, their third “spiced up Star Wars version”? George Lucas could better focus on releasing a decent SF movie instead of those no-story-lots-of-effects crap he released the past years. Sorry, but this is just a guy with too much money telling the crowd he has just too much money.
I’d like to see George Lucas making a super cool movie costing max. 400.000 dollars. Be creative George, and skip those cut-and-paste digitally created armies!
I’d like to see George Lucas making a super cool movie costing max. 400.000 dollars. Be creative George, and skip those cut-and-paste digitally created armies!
I repeat, ever heard of THX-1138? If not: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066434/
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
Go to USSR.
Ooooops, USSR doesn’t exist anymore. 😀
Give me a break! There’s a WHOLE lot more to life than games. BTW, I’m typing this on my new iMac G5, so forgive me if my inferior floating point performance is showing. On the other hand, I am running Logic, Dreamweaver, Fireworks, Propellerhead’s Reason and watching a DVD all while reading your ridiculous remarks on OS News.
Please, tell me that you are a girl ’cause I’m falling in love to you! X-D
I found the title a little misleading considering some would think the article relates to ILM Post-Production studios or it’s sister company Lucas Arts that works on games. Instead the article is about a separate company Lowry Digital Images and their use of Apple G5 machines for film restoration on the original Star Wars Trilogy (stories #4,5,6). Unlike what some are believing here ILM uses both Intel and AMD x86 architecture through out their facilities (workstations, servers and render farms). Yes they also have some Mac systems in the art department but there are significantly more Intel and AMD systems over all. Doing a simple Google search for ILM turns up some interesting reading such as ( http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6783 , http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6011, etc). This is not to put down Apple G5 systems or the work that was actually done by IBM, not Apple on the G5 processor but instead to hopefully have better titled articles that are “proof read” by OSNews prior to posting.
minor correction – it’s going to use a PowerPC processor. Not necessarily the same one Mac uses.
“According to the rumour MS’s developers for Xbox 2 are running a modfified version of win2k on the G5 Macs.”
poor bloody Macs.
“Yes they also have some Mac systems in the art department but there are significantly more Intel and AMD systems over all.”
Like Pixar, they are migrating. 🙂
“minor correction – it’s going to use a PowerPC processor. Not necessarily the same one Mac uses.”
Yes, not the same “now” Mac uses, but the future processor both Macs and XBOX 2 will use.
“poor bloody Macs.”
Yes, it’s true. A Mac with Windows XP… Terrible!!! 😛
Man this is just tiring to read. I use both Macs and PCs a lot for audio related stuff (recording, mixing, editing) and as the matter a fact I did some benchmarks to shut up all those Mac zealots. If you get yourself a PC for the same money as a new G5, the PC will out perform the G5 with GREAT ease. The benchmarking was done by using exactly the same software (Cubase SX and Logic) and plugins (Absynth, Logic stuff) which is very CPU intensive stuff.
OK now you probably think I’m a PC zealot? On the contrary, if I had the money I would buy a nice G5 because the hardware just looks very stylish and OS X works quite well for me. It’s just tiring to read all the comments from people who actually don’t know anything about both platforms.
following jack perry – plus the only original trilogy movie Lucas actually directed was the first one (call it Star Wars or A New Hope, I don’t care) and that’s pretty much universally recognised as being a very good movie.
matpie – Episode II was actually a pretty good movie, although the 40-year old idiot film critics who saw the first trilogy when they were kids and are hung up on Yoda being a sock puppet refuse to recognise it. Sheesh. It’s a lot less draggy than Episode I and feels a lot more grown-up; there’s a very well written political storyline in there if you follow it. I’m certainly looking forward to III; so long as he follows up on the _good_ parts of II it’ll be great. He could easily blow it, though, of course.
I don’t really have a problem with the changes made to the original movies – the objections are all just more idiotic fanboy stuff. The series is a _story_, which Lucas is trying very hard to make into a cohesive whole. The actors, however attached you are to them, are not necessarily an integral part of that story. So if you had a random Joe Schmoe actor play what was, let’s face it, essentially a bit part (Darth Vader without his mask) for a few minutes of screen time twenty years ago, and now you’re making the REST of the story you have a completely different actor playing the *same* role for several hours of screen time, doesn’t it make sense to switch the two actors around in the earlier released film if you have the technological means? I just don’t see the issue. I could happily live without it being made too, but the fact that it’s been made doesn’t somehow suddenly make a good movie terrible.
I hadn’t finished when I hit that post button.
and on the whole performance thing – for the love of sweet plastic baby Jesus, give it a rest. Does it really, in the great scheme of wondrous things, MATTER how fast your sodding processor is? To film restoration studios, sure it does! Otherwise, I’m not convinced. My CPU runs 2.1GHz. My motherboard doesn’t actually recognise the type of CPU I use, so when I first booted it up it ran it at 800MHz. I did the entire Mandrakelinux installation and used it for half a day without even bloody noticing. It was only when I tried to rip a CD that I noticed it was actually running around a third of the speed it was supposed to. This is the point we’re at with CPU power; most of us have way, way, way, more of it than we have any need for.
You could replace my system with a Mac tomorrow, stick PPC Mandrake on it and I probably wouldn’t notice either. If x86s ran OS X (outside of labs, I mean) you could replace the average Apple fanboy’s system with an x86 one (uhhh, assuming he had it hidden in the Ugly Closet or something) and he wouldn’t notice the difference either. It’s just so, so overblown. Give it a rest already.
“It’s just tiring to read all the comments from people who actually don’t know anything about both platforms.”
Like you. 🙂
Sorry, but I DON’T BELIVE YOU!!! And do you know why I don’t belive you?Because Logic is ONLY for Mac for about two years or more, how you would know if you are really a user of both platforms. 🙂
RE: “Like Pixar, they are migrating. :-)”
I take it that’s your sarcasm since it has no basis in fact. Fact: ILM runs the majority of their pipeline in the post-production studios on Linux which is on Intel and AMD systems. Fact: Lucas Arts recently acquired new dual AMD 64-bit systems to replace their aging Intel (dual P3) pipeline. The idea that Lucas would scrap all their propriatory software tools and the lower cost of Linux in the pipeline seems far fetched. So sure all the Apple fans and Jobs himself can dream of ILM switching entirely over to Apple but with the current work being done at ILM and it’s divisions using some software not ported to OSX such as XSI then I can’t see this happening for quite some time. You have to remember that ILM uses more than just Maya to create their wizard like effects and photorealism. A lot of highend film software used by studios is still not ported to OSX. Softimage XSI, SideFX Houdini and Discreet Smoke/Inferno are good examples of software used by several studios but not ported to OSX. Where do I get my facts? Well you can as I already pointed out do a Google search on ILM and the film industry at large or take the word of my family and friends working there.
and discreet porting inferno to osx is quite improbable.
inferno is a sgi vehicle, heavily optimized for sgi hardware’s vast i/o to do complex film resolution compositing real-time.
apple would need to put bigger pipes in their machines for that..
Bla bla bla bla bla! Many words on the wind. 🙂
Can you understand me if I say to you that can’t convince me about the inexistent PC (dummy-)x86 superiority? 😀
“inferno is a sgi vehicle, heavily optimized for sgi hardware’s vast i/o to do complex film resolution compositing real-time.”
And it’s obvius that SGI uses ONLY (dummy-)x86 processors for its RISC workstation. 😀
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
Man this is just tiring to read. I use both Macs and PCs a lot for audio related stuff (recording, mixing, editing) and as the matter a fact I did some benchmarks to shut up all those Mac zealots. If you get yourself a PC for the same money as a new G5, the PC will out perform the G5 with GREAT ease. The benchmarking was done by using exactly the same software (Cubase SX and Logic) and plugins (Absynth, Logic stuff) which is very CPU intensive stuff.
you do know that logic stopped back at version 5 for windows right? [it’s now at version 7] ….
how does the PC outperform the G5 with ‘ease’ …..
highly doubtful claims.
As Dark_knight say, “fact”: http://www.macitynet.it/macity/aA18940/index.shtml
Ops, sorry! It’s in Italian. 😀
Re: “Bla bla bla bla bla! Many words on the wind. 🙂
Can you understand me if I say to you that can’t convince me about the inexistent PC (dummy-)x86 superiority? :-D”
Shake Benchmark where Linux on x86 out performs Apple’s OSX and their PPC architecture: http://homepage.mac.com/breadboi/shake/
Maya and Mental Ray render benchmark where again OSX is left in the dust to the x86 architecture: http://zoorender.com/
Re:”As Dark_knight say, “fact”: http://www.macitynet.it/macity/aA18940/index.shtml
Ops, sorry! It’s in Italian. :-D”
No need to apologize as I simply used Babelfish to translate the web page. Unfortunately you still seem a little confused as the Italian article you linked is basically about the same thing as the one posted by OSNews. You see using G5 processors to do “film restoration” is not the same as using systems to actually do DCC (digital content creation) work or in use as a render farm. This is where Linux and the x86 architecture excels at large studios such as ILM and where Apple is left behind. Like I’ve said before on forums Apple would probably do better if they were more open such as supporting x86 architecture, offering DCC graphics cards (Quadro FX, FireGL, Wildcat) and had more support from the film industry and their developers like Softimage, etc. Until Apple realizes this then unfortunately they will in most studio owners view take a back seat to the competition.
“Episode II was actually a pretty good movie, although the 40-year old idiot film critics who saw the first trilogy when they were kids and are hung up on Yoda being a sock puppet refuse to recognise it.”
Agreed. I didn’t think the romance was very romantic (not that I really care), but the political intrigue was great. Palpatine and Dooku playing both sides was a very cool idea. And that battle sequence on Geonosis was pretty intense. The only thing I thought was really missing something was when Anakin tells Padme that he’s just massacred a whole village of sand people, and she’s like “eh, whatever”. I think if you’re going to show a character falling to the Dark Side their ought to be more emotion involved, from the character as well as the from others around him.
I’m also looking forward to III, think it could be the best of all of them if it’s dark like Knights of the Old Republic.
“Shake Benchmark where Linux on x86 out performs Apple’s OSX and their PPC architecture: http://homepage.mac.com/breadboi/shake/
Maya and Mental Ray render benchmark where again OSX is left in the dust to the x86 architecture: http://zoorender.com/ ”
But don’t you understand that benchmark is another name for metal onanism? 😀
“This is where Linux and the x86 architecture excels at large studios such as ILM and where Apple is left behind.”
x86 excels? Where? When? How?
Don’t you understand? You are here to convince me about what is obviusly false.
AHAHAHAHAHAH! I laugh about you. 😀
And Pixar who is? Come on, I’m tired of you.
“offering DCC graphics cards (Quadro FX, FireGL, Wildcat)”
Who need this cards? This cards are almost futile. I remember you Pixar.
And don’t say that Pixar use Mac only for its CEO: Pixar have a President and a Chairman in its board.
Lol….I can always tell when the Mac zealots pay a visit. Every frikkin’ comment has a plethora of exclamation points after it.
OS X!!!!! G5!!!!!! Windows Sucks!!!!!! I have been brainwashed!!!!!! lol…I love you Mac guys. Seriously.
I liked the irony of making a huge battle sequence which, due to the underlying political story, had pretty much no actual significance whatsoever; it just simply didn’t *matter* which side won. Almost no reviews I saw picked up on that, and those that did thought it was a bad thing, for some reason. *shakes head*
the romantic scenes were appalling, yes. A nasty combination of hideously bad writing and actors who weren’t good enough to hide it (the original series had some pretty creaky writing, but Harrison Ford and Carrie Fisher papered it over very well).
Me and my windows using self belive that OSX deserves the “!!!!!” I dont feel there hardware is superior. All they have is sexy computers and a good os, where as windows has some sexy cases (imo) good hardware, some good software and a nice os but not the best
Anyway, ’cause I’m tired about this thread I want to say to all the people that I don’t post here anymore. So, if you want to chat with me send me an e-mail (if you find my e-mail address). 😀
yeah why do we even need OS X on a cisc processor when IBM has done such a great job with the G5’s performance!
I’ll miss you JohnOne, especially the accent.
You make it seem like multitasking is a MAC thing. Also are you saying that just because I am a windows user means I don’t do anything but play games. MAC is a weak game platform and at the moment I don’t see that changing anytime soon even though the xbox 2 might be using the powerpc chip in their consoles. Also at the moment I don’t see PCI e, SLI and ddr 2 for MAC so at the moment their behind when it comes to hardware.
all these arguments are really pointless.. It’s funny how much emotion so many people pour into this. Discussion ok, arguments, pointless.
on my windows pc i am chatting on aim listining to music surfing the web doing an assinment in oo.o(open office) and watching a movie on powerDVD yeah i know i shouldnt listen to music and watch a movie but i do
>And it’s obvius that SGI uses ONLY (dummy-)x86 processors
>for its RISC workstation. 😀
>AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
??
where do these people live on daytime?
and why don’t they stay there?
just thought it was worth mentioning, the G5 is not derived from the Power5 platform, it is actually derived from the Power4 architecture.. presumably the G6 (whenever that is) will be based on the Power5.
If its not derived from the Power5 Platform what (currently) is derived from the Power5 architecture
This is pointless. In the end, it’s all about 0s and 1s, isn’t it?
But a dual G5 would look nice beside my i386 “plain looking” box. Maybe it’s the way metal looks. On the other hand, my Powerbook G4 DOEs look nice beside the Genius Keyboard (black) attached to the i386; and the two LG 17” Flat Monitors that feed the i386 (Windows) box.
And who cares?
Nobody said it so far.. but may the force be with us…
three windows open? HAHA! funny! well lets see, i usually have a winamp, an explorer, a firefox, dreamweaver, thunderbird, fireworks and photoshop open, and sometimes acdsee at once, and no am not PC fanboy, i actually was considering buying a ibook over the alienware that is before i saw the way it can perform. But now, alienware all the way. and yeah i have used a mac G5. but yeah TECHNOLOGICALLY G5 is superior
you know what ticked me off? the fact that on the DVDs and TV, Padme is wearing a pull over on top of her tight white nip shirt. that was the best thing to see in theaters. I was hoping to see it again 🙁
lucas is a dork
“Like you. 🙂
Sorry, but I DON’T BELIVE YOU!!! And do you know why I don’t belive you?Because Logic is ONLY for Mac for about two years or more, how you would know if you are really a user of both platforms. :-)”
You think I don’t know this? This is one of the main reasons I refuse to buy a Mac, the decision to quit the PC version of Logic is a move by Apple I really detest.
By the way, you can still compare the CPU usage and stuff running different VST plugins (like I did), and if this wouldn’t be fair because the Mac has got the newer version, well I guess the Mac would have a better, more optimised version than the PC wouldn’t it?
Actually Motorola, IBM and Apple were involoved with the PPC architecture, not the actual implementation. PPC is to IBM/Motorola what X86 is to Intel/AMD. The P4 is am implementation of the X86 architecture.
The PPC970 aka G5 is IBM’s creation.
The G5 is based on the Power4 not the Power5 which was released after the G5.
If you are going to compare a Xeon or AMD-64 to PPC, than at least compare the PPC to a regular P4, and the AMD-64 and Xeon to a POWER 5.
No and AMD64 compares with a G5 and P4. You can compare an Opteron with a Power5. But a Xeon/Opteron are much cheaper than a Power5. The Power5 is of course far more powerful.
“The PPC970 aka G5 is IBM’s creation.”
32-bit and AltiVec supports in IBM PowerPC G5 is Apple’s creations.
Sorry, this is a necessary comment. 🙂
IBM licensed Altivec from Motorola. So no Altivec is not an Apple creation.
How can 32-bit be Apple. Like I said before IBM/Motorola/Apple developed the PPC architecture. PPC has always been 64bit, with 32bit being designed to be a subset of the full 64bit architecture.
Once again, Apple’s part in the G5 Implementation of the PPC architecture is miniscule. Apple is not a CPU company, which is a good thing. They are already massively vertically integrated.
The PPC970 originaly had NOT 32-bit support and AltiVec too.
These are Apple’s creations in the G5. Surf the web, please. 🙂
Oh, the memory managent of PPC970 is a Macintosh patent licended from Apple to IBM. Again, surf the web, plz. 😀
Uh no. Apple worked with IBM since Motorola wsa not going anywhere fast. IBM builds the G5 specially for Apple with 32-bit and Velocity engine included.
– I repeat Velocity Engine is a Motorola technology that IBM licensed so they could make the new chip for Apple.
– 32-bit is part of the original PPC specification so is an Apple/Motorola/IBM thing and Apple never gave that to IBM.
Apple is not in the chip manufacture and design business!
Memory Management – I watched the lauch of the G5 and remember Apple producing a chip for the new G5 systems. But please this is not a major component of the G5.
Apple is a wonderful company but please stop reading fellow machead sites who have also drunk Steve’s coolaid.