Home > Mozilla, Gecko > ThunderBird 1.0.2, Mozilla 1.7.6 Released ThunderBird 1.0.2, Mozilla 1.7.6 Released Submitted by Dave Southern 2005-03-22 Mozilla, Gecko 21 Comments Mozilla 1.7.6 was released and Thunderbird-1.0.2 was too, with security updates. About The Author Eugenia Loli Ex-programmer, ex-editor in chief at OSNews.com, now a visual artist/filmmaker. Follow me on Twitter @EugeniaLoli 21 Comments 2005-03-22 6:52 pm Still a Moz fan 2005-03-22 7:18 pm …wasn’t there supposed to be a Firefox 1.0.2 also? I guess its late. 2005-03-22 7:55 pm I didn’t see linked the release notes. The current version I have is working fine for me – are there security fixes in this release? 2005-03-22 8:35 pm Here’s the release notes for TBird : http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/releases/1.0.2-release-… As the page says : Here’s what’s new in Thunderbird 1.0.2: * Several security fixes. * Improved stabilit 2005-03-22 9:09 pm Does anyone know of a way got get the OS X icon theme from Thunderbird into the Windows-version? Without too much manual work that is. I’m kind of lazy. =) 2005-03-22 9:26 pm While Thunderbird is a great prodcut, I wonder why there isn’t the marketing push (tbird vs OE) compared to firefox? 2005-03-22 10:15 pm Agreed. It is a wonder that the spam filter isn’t marketed more heavily. That alone would sell it. 2005-03-22 10:22 pm The reason is IMHO the fact that Thunderbird is not really a great product *yet*. It is still very buggy (not even very stable – I am using 1.0 as my main email app, and while it has not managed to wreck my email archive it does hang and crash from time to time) and not really feature complete – even compared to OE (what features? – just browse bugzilla or mozdev forums). I would say that it should be at 0.6 and not 1.0 now (and in my opinion the jump to 1.0 was a purely political/marketing move, just to sync with release of Firefox 1.0). With Firefox the situation is much different – this is really a mature product. Actively marketing Thunderbird now, in its current state, would rather do it more harm than good 🙂 2005-03-22 10:39 pm Is the delete key on Mac OS X! it doesnt work.. you need use the backspace key. Anyone know if you can change this? 2005-03-22 10:51 pm because Outlook is far better than Outlook Express. Also, device sync and scheduling isn’t there yet (see Mozilla Sunbird) 2005-03-22 10:59 pm Their link for the Windows version goes nowhere. 2005-03-22 11:29 pm “Is the delete key on Mac OS X! it doesnt work.. you need use the backspace key. Anyone know if you can change this?” Erm… the backspace key on a Mac IS the delete key. Just because you are using a windows keyboard on a Mac doesn’t mean it starts working like windows! 2005-03-22 11:42 pm Nope im using a mac kb and in Apple Mail the delete works just like it does on Windows, and id like it to be the same on thunderbird. 2005-03-23 12:04 am I use thunderbird on WindowsXP and cannot think of one feature it misses over outlook. Also I have never had crashing problems. Maybe you could fill me in on what features it does not have? 2005-03-23 12:41 am What’s it missing? Everything in Sunbird… I use Thunderbird because I don’t need anything except a mail client, but it’s not really comparable to Outlook yet. I’ve never had it crash, either, but I’m sure I don’t use it as heavily as some. 2005-03-23 11:30 am Many things 🙂 – for example decent composer (try editing something that is longer than just couple of paragraphs), ability to keep message received date/order, ability to save individual emails to disk, account export/import, attachments preview (or at least information about their size:-) etc. – note that all these are features present in OE. Comparing Thundderbird to “big” Outlook… well… Refto stability – read tips and tricks section in Thunderbird FAQ – developers are aware of some, hmmm, problems 🙂 2005-03-23 1:39 pm * decent composer – are implying you are sending nasty HTML mails? . The current composer works fine for me and I DO write long emails. * ability to keep message received date/order – fail to see the practicality of this. * ability to save individual emails to disk – I wonder what “Save as…” in context menu is doing, if not writing message to disk, * account export/import – like what? Your settings? They already are on disk (though not in a friendly format) * attachments preview – OK, it does not show the size of the attachment, but you could guess it from the size of the whole message, couldn’t you? * stability – yes, it sometimes crashes on me when quiting. which I don’t really care about. Otherwise, 1.0 (20050116) has not crashed on me yet. Can’t help myself, but it works fine for me. 2005-03-23 3:28 pm composer – this probably means that you have fast machine 🙂 But sorry, composer *is* buggy – observe for example spacebar behaviour 🙂 date – not everyone has his clock set correctly (and some people set it to wrong time on purpose) 🙂 save – sure, individual emails. What about groups (more than 1 email selected) 🙂 export/import – sure, the same applies for emails (reftor email save/restore) – but an easy way would be nice 🙂 attachments – no, not when you are composing an email 🙂 stability – crash is one thing (nb. this might be related to message store size – I have over 2GB of emails), but there are other problems (like locking accounts – “this account is being processed message etc.) Summing up – I am not saying that TB is bad, I am using it myself. It only needs *a lot of* work until one can call it a mature/finished application 🙂 2005-03-23 4:58 pm My favorite thing about thunderbird/firefox is that upgrading is as easy as unzipping a file. Now I can only find the .exe installer (and I’m not sure–do I need to uninstall 1.0 or do I install over the top?). Is that gone for good? 2005-03-23 5:43 pm Did they fix it’s inability to handle multi-part attachments in Newsgroups? It’s extremely frustrating having to jump into Outlook Express to get my daily porn fix!!! 2005-03-23 7:03 pm I use it, among others, on a 600MHz Pentium III. Well, people should use correct times. I accept this as a valid concern, though it has never happened to me. Attachments when composing – sorry, but you should know, what you are attaching. “this account is being processed message” – never seen that. Btw, I keep my mails where they belong – on an IMAP server – so no issues when switching to another client.