The KDE Project and Google announce the 24 KDE projects selected for the “Summer of Code” project. The lucky students and the KDE e.V. will receive a total of $120,000 if they can complete their projects in the allotted two months.
The KDE Project and Google announce the 24 KDE projects selected for the “Summer of Code” project. The lucky students and the KDE e.V. will receive a total of $120,000 if they can complete their projects in the allotted two months.
#16 A New Sidebar for Konqueror
Any mockup of this one? seems interesting.
Do you know when the full list will be available? I’ve seen the accepted proposals for inkscape, gaim, mozdev, ubuntu and a few others, but I’d like to know what can we hope to see for gnome, wine, samba, mono, etc. etc.
Whatever happens with this year’s GSoC, this is going to be a good summer for the involved FOSS projects! For instance, Inkscape has a PhD student, that is already researching diagrams, create Connectors which basically create logical points on shapes and then draws a line between those two shapes, and the line will even move with the shapes, so one doesn’t have to manually move the line. It will even adapt to shapes overlapping the line, and draw the line around the shape. Nice!
Waouh, quite impressive, you mean like a real world vector drawing application ?
Having VOIP and WebCam support is possible with chat messengers such as Kopete that use a plug-in to integrate NetMeeting alternatives such as GnomeMeeting. Though what I’d like to see is Linux chat messengers be able to offer VOIP and WebCam but actually work with MSN Messenger and Yahoo Messenger. Better yet have one global standard for chat messengers that offers unified communication (VOIP & WebCam) no matter what platform you use. Then it wouldn’t matter whether someone uses Linux, Windows or OSX because all users would be able to communicate freely.
Yes, like a real vector drawing program. For free. Troll much?
Don’t be an idiot. KDE is customizable enough so you have as little or as much as you want on your desktop.
Yes, this is true, but BY DEFAULT (you know, the UI that most people won’t change and is the most used) should be clean and effective.
Yes, this is true, but BY DEFAULT (you know, the UI that most people won’t change and is the most used) should be clean and effective.
That is up to the distro makers, not the KDE devs. Case in point: Mandriva’s KDE is clean and effective.
Now, what does that have to do with the GSoC KDE projects? Oh, right, nothing. Just some troll trollin’ on OSNews…
this is a very intellignet way to fund OOS projects from google imho. respect
I’ve never seen a clean KDE. It is not the distros fault it is KDEs. Konqueror is to crowded, as is control center and they are all ugly and confusing.
To every man his own, but honestly KDE could be better in my opinion.
20. Speech recognition in KHotKeys – Olivier Goffart
nice!
I think Gparts would be the most interesting project.
Was KIO? Where was DCOP scriptability (yes, I know COM, regular user can’t use that)? Where was all that API reusability?
How about ease of use? How about a layout that is not just fit for Linux jockers? How about an installer that works? Music players that work? Speed and performance across the board? Apps that don’t suck?
Sorry to break it to the kloners, but while KDE = Windows N-10, KDE apps are even worse.
KOffice might as well be called KOffin. It is where performance and ease of use go to die.
Even the geek tools, KDevelop for instance, is a wretched mockery of Visual Studio.
Sorry, I just don’t see KDE being important in the lifetime of anyone who is alive now.
Adding a whole bunch of fake accounts for the editorial staff to manage probably won’t change anything. /. has accounts and the average score of a post is something like /.03 anyway.
KOffice might as well be called KOffin. It is where performance and ease of use go to die.
theshillofbigbrother, you may be a troll, but at least you’re a good one. That’s pretty funny.
Does anyone else think that it’s impossible or it’s just me? This project sounds quite naive to me. I don’t say it’s not doable but definitely not in two months. XUL is very tightly integrated with mozilla rendering core. The DOM model, javascript implementation, chromes. It’s just way too much. I really don’t think that something like this would be possible without _major_ changes to khtml. And extensions? what about XPCOM/XPConnect?
> KDE is dying, KDE is a poor windows clone, KDE is bloated, KDE is slow, KDE is not free.
KDE is a powerful Free Software graphical desktop environment for Linux and Unix workstations. It combines ease of use, contemporary functionality, and outstanding graphical design with the technological superiority of the Unix operating system. It’s leading and its contenders seem to have accepted this fact long ago.
List of projects mentored by Mono is here:
http://mono-project.com/Summer2005
“You all know the drill guys…
KDE is dying, KDE is a poor windows clone, KDE is bloated, KDE is slow, KDE is not free. ”
…well dont forget…
“gnome is dead, gnome is not a very good windows clone, gnome is bloated, gnome is slow”
that being said I do think gnome is probably losing user base to the lighter DE/WM… and to flame a while
kde should be the windows clone and the entry drug
gnome should (get back) be the drug you progressed to since it is artsy, innovative, different but more productive ingenious DE/WM
and icewm should be the final stop
since it isnt any of those things…
🙂 wars on…
Actually, someone knocked up a quick version of it a year ago: took them two weeks I think. Bascially, they used XSL to convert Mozilla XUL into the XML UI language used by QtDesigner in its .ui files. Qt and KDE both support the dynamic generation of GUIs from XML files at runtime, so getting the GUI working should be a piece of cake.
Getting JavaScript to work should be pretty easy too, after all, KDE comes with KJS, its own JavaScript engine, that’s proven quite popular.
The hard part is going to be adding Mozilla interfaces to an implementation of KJS; however I don’t think that’ll be too difficult either if the author has a reasonable knowledge of programming[1].
[1] Which is a big caveat: I think up to half of these projects could end up as noble failures: I’m not entirely certain that the projects didn’t match the applicants hopes instead of their ability.
Yay woot! At last a KDE silly exclamation word generator for OSNews articles. Rock on KWoot!
KDE is just Windows n-10.
So today’s KDE is about as good as Windows 95.
I know you’re just trolling and all, but personally I use both KDE and Windows daily, and IMO KDE is actually superior to WinXP.
I wouldn’t say it’s that simple. XUL is not just UI. Xul can be mixed with html at any place. You can embed HTML code into XUL, etc.
Getting XUL interface displayed is the easiest part of all. But to get it work would be very very difficult. XUL heavily relies on XPCOM and XPConnect. Every non-trivial program written for the mozilla platform requires these components. And Gecko is also only a set of components communicating through XPCOM/XPConnect. The point is that mozilla is a very integrated platform. XUL is only small part of it. To get even basic plugins working you will have to implement the major part of mozilla’s component. Or take them and make them somehow cooperate with konqueror. Which IMHO would result in nothing else than Mozilla with KHTML instead of Gecko. Does this seem to be a good idea to enyone? Mozilla has a very huge codebase, something like this is definitely not going to be manageable for one person, not mentioning it’s just a summer project.
Here’s a presentation George wrote on Kaxul which is a KDE version of XUL.
http://www.staikos.net/~staikos/presentations/August2003/kaxul/
Gnome fanboys critic the windows-like style of KDE… but Gnome is becoming more and more .net (err… i mean mono) centric… so, who is more “traitor”???
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Gnome fanboys critic the windows-like style of KDE… but Gnome is becoming more and more .net (err… i mean mono) centric… so, who is more “traitor”???
GNOME and KDE are not enemies, just the inmature trolls and fan boys who have nothing better to do but take sides.
GNOME and KDE are not enemies, just the inmature trolls and fan boys who have nothing better to do but take sides.
To take it further, *Windows* is not “enemies” with Gnome/KDE. Again, it’s only the “immature trolls and fan boys.”
I know you didn’t say anything to the contrary – just wanted to add it.
sometimes there is some usefull discussion, and i like to react to trolls often, but this time its just too much… the ppl from osnews should moderate a bit more, imho.
The only reason there is so much tension between gnome and kde trollers is because there are those 2 or 3 qt or gtk aps that they have to install to make their desktop fully functional and it interferes with their precious UI consistency
Well, I hate to brake it to ya but kde, gnome, or windows, you will always have a few apps that don’t fit in… even OSX has a few apps that do not seemlessly match aqua. To sit and whine about is ridiculous.
So how about you get over it and use whatever is your preference
I’m a KDE guy myself and IMO KDE has wonderful (but not 100% perfect) consistency. In addition to that I have as good and in some instances better responsiveness with KDE.
if you haven’t heard: linux gui, every single one of them, blows chunks compared to windows when it comes to speed and looks like crap compared to osx86.
the basic grist of the mill is dissatisfaction with the linux coders who will do anything other than make a ui that matches windows for speed and mac for smoothless and looks. linux coders are just a bunch of squabbling children.
i see both gnome and kde with problems, but i see more improvement potential with kde.
have you ever used gnome or kde (and i don’t mean for an hour or even a day), i will say this, i have plenty of windows experience and both kde and gnome are on par with windows as far as speed, however… in additon to running 2 32 bit systems, i run a pure 64 bit amd64 box, and in 64 bit both kde and gnome utterly blow away windows (on the same system) as far as speed, even 64 bit windows as there are very few 64 bit windows apps.
anyone who says windows gui is far superior to any linux gui is either uninformed, chooses not to try it or learn, or is an absolute dumb ass, you choose, but you are one of them.
another thing, with kde and gnome (especialy kde), it is damn near infinaely configurable, it can easily be made to look and act any way i want it to.
Your vague argument tells me that you have either never tried kde or gnome or any other linux desktop in the last year, or you don’t want to and you just want to rip on it because windows is all you know and you don’t want to learn.
in about 10 minutes i can make kde look and act like windows or OSX, so don’t give me that crap
If you are going to make claims like this…. back it up with something, don’t just talk out of your ass
While I mostly agree with you I otoh must say that I disagree with GNOME being up to Windows level. Coming from GNOME I can say that this is definately not the case.
oh yeah OSX86?….. hehehehehe
and that looks different from OSX PPC how?
the fact that you said OSX86 also sais you have never used OSX either, OSX is OSX weather it is ppc or x86 (which you can’t get unless you are a mac developer anyway)
linux coders are just a bunch of squabbling children.
And what ideas do you have for innovative Summer of Coding projects? If you’ve nothing worthwhile to say why don’t you just go away?
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As for the subject,
18. oKular – A powerful unified viewer application for KDE with a plugin system and backends for most popular formats
Ummm… I wonder what they mean?
> > 18. oKular – A powerful unified viewer application for
> > KDE with a plugin system and backends for most popular
> > formats
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> Ummm… I wonder what they mean?
They mean, “It just works”…. It’s a reader with capabilities to read all types of fileformats. CHM, HTML, PDF, PS, MS-Word, DVI… and probably more.
I appologize for going off topic i just…. grr…. i hate morons
18. oKular – A powerful unified viewer application for KDE with a plugin system and backends for most popular formats
I think this is what the Linux desktop needs. You have the same problem with Windows (MediaPlayer, Acrobat, Real, QT, etc.), so this could be the most important feature that separates KDE from Windows. It would actually mean less confusion and clutter.
They mean, “It just works”…. It’s a reader with capabilities to read all types of fileformats. CHM, HTML, PDF, PS, MS-Word, DVI… and probably more.
I don’t think CHM and HTML belong into that list, because they’re not page-oriented.
But I really hope this project is successful and all the formats are brought up to kpdf’s high standard.