Read the Sun Java Desktop System review at eWEEK with much info on the product.
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… to win against an much older Red Hat Desktop. Wait until Red Hat releases its new version this year.
Another paid ad from Sun
Does Sun’s Linux support Wireless networking? I just bought a cheapo wireless card that works perfectly in Win2K and WinXP, but it’s dead in the water under Linux. I tried ndiswrapper, RTL8180 chipset driver, and linuxant, none work.
When will the Linux community catch up with Windows? Wireless networking is all the rage, but linux seems to be a few years behind. Why won’t hardware vendors support a free OS?
Believe me Sun doesn’t spend 1/10th the money our competitors do (yes I work for Sun). And to even speak of a Redhat product that’s not out yet is a bit crazy.Obivously they will have a new offering as will Sun later this year. There’s nothing wrong with comparing products that are actually shipping today – that’s why they are called periodicals my friend…
Sun is so screwed. Why is an enterprise company entering the desktop computing market? Why are they selling *just another* Linux distro. Why to they dilute the Java brand by using it to sell a product that has nothing to do with Java. Sun management is desperate and this is evidence of it.
“When will the Linux community catch up with Windows? Wireless networking is all the rage, but linux seems to be a few years behind. Why won’t hardware vendors support a free OS? ”
Linux wireless works just fine for cards that have drivers. The reason why some hardware vendors don’t create drivers for a free OS is because development of drivers is not cheap on any OS. You put your development where the money is. Since many more users use windows it only makes since for them to put the investment there.
“When will the Linux community catch up with Windows? Wireless networking is all the rage, but linux seems to be a few years behind. Why won’t hardware vendors support a free OS? ”
Linux wireless works just fine for cards that have drivers. The reason why some hardware vendors don’t create drivers for a free OS is because development of drivers is not cheap on any OS. You put your development where the money is. Since many more users use windows it only makes since for them to put the investment there.
I agree. This is getting boring…
Are we really forced to have an average of 3 threads/week about Sun here on OSNews? I mean it’s quite obvious that a number of Sun employees read OSNews and post here, but the majority of OSNews readers will quickly get saturated with this.
BTW the eWEEK piece is of such poor quality that I would not call it a review. It reads like a press release from Sun, with a touch of anti-RedHat rant…
…this review seems fishy to me is that this is the first time I’ve heard something good about JDS.
Some people are really dumb.
Sun sucks, bluh, bluh, bluh.
Honestly unlike eweek some peopel let their feelings get a hold of them in bad ways. This seemed like a very honest review and I can see what they were talking about. Things like Open Office not just opening your email client. These are all really dumb things that plague the desktop linux (my Fedora box took me some time to tweak these little things).
Eweek has never, in my experience, done bad reviews as they have always given top notch ratings for Red Hat’s server products (as they should).
What is Sun doing in this market? Read about China and maybe you can figure it out.
Let your Sun bias go boys, it sounds like Sun created something that is well integrated and should be congratulated for it. Now I look forward to Novell’s desktop as Linux is really starting to shine in this area.
I read such reviews, and then take a look at the SJD screenshots, and I am confused. Are they saying that ugly, half-baked interface is great??? Gee. If Sun pay me some 100 bucks I can do such a review too.
the NDIS wrapper is a probably nice attempt for a timy solution.
but honestly If you ask for help. Try to figure out the Chipset.
For ACX100/ACX111 ( TI chips common in D-LINK DWL [G](5|6)20+)
are supported by the acx100 driver you can find at acx100.sf.net
There are some other Project like that too…
kindest regards,
mo
“Things like Open Office not just opening your email client.”
i thought open office was for opening up office documents not email clients.
“What is Sun doing in this market? Read about China and maybe you can figure it out. ”
you know thats project figures and estimates and not actual sales. right?
when a home grown and better solution is available??
http://www.asianux.com/
http://www.redflag-linux.com/
This whole 200 million thing sounds really fishy to me.
First you have to remember that Linux is years behind Windows and BILLIONS of dollars behind also. Hardware vendors first have to shake the GRIP of Microsoft. Then they have to see where they can make money with Linux. Once they feel that a good % of Linux users buy their products they will make drivers.
Also like Intel a lot of hardware vendors don’t want to Open Source their drivers. Intel has decieded to make their drivers for Craptrino just allow you to connect to Wireless but not give you the other “Special” features that they say are hidden in their Windows code.
Why would China go with JDS. Because just like people go with MS, governments and companies want to go with vendors they feel have long standings in the field and will be around when they are needed, not because they always have the best product. RedFlag is a nice idea but they don’t know anything about supporting major roll outs like IBM, or SUN or MS or Novell. They just started making Linux while Sun has been selling OS’s for years.
red flag is not just a good idea but also works well
see
“The upcoming releases of Miracle Linux 3.0 and Red Flag Linux 4.1 will be based on Asianux, but bundled with extra localisation features in their respective countries. Find out more at asianux.com.”
Why would China go with JDS. Because just like people go with MS, governments and companies want to go with vendors they feel have long standings in the field and will be around when they are needed, not because they always have the best product. RedFlag is a nice idea but they don’t know anything about supporting major roll outs like IBM, or SUN or MS or Novell. They just started making Linux while Sun has been selling OS’s for years.
I read this China talk all the time, but does SUN has anything concrete there, or what? Sometimes it seems that people is taking this for granted, but I’m not sure whether the chinese gov’t would be willing to jump from one american corporation (MS) to another (SUN). For me it’s seems most likely for them to go for a domestic solution on top of Linux or even FreeBSD.
hahaha i agree. I also highly doubt sun would pay eWeek to do that. Also with all the ideas of switching to FreeBSD or Linux why when Solaris is going to be open sourced, and its technically surperior to the platforms? Come on you can only argue lies with that.
“Also with all the ideas of switching to FreeBSD or Linux why when Solaris is going to be open sourced, and its technically surperior to the platforms? Come on you can only argue lies with that.”
lets see it as an open source product and let it prove itself more marketable. technical excellence isnt everything you know?
see the previous instances like beta max.
we dont want to argue over future things which may or may not happen
The real question is when Sun is going to release Project Looking Glass
The SDKs are coming out at the end of this month at JavaONE
“lets see it as an open source product and let it prove itself more marketable. technical excellence isnt everything you know? ”
I agree! Great response!
“Are we really forced to have an average of 3 threads/week about Sun here on OSNews? I mean it’s quite obvious that a number of Sun employees read OSNews and post here, but the majority of OSNews readers will quickly get saturated with this.”
Am I bitching about all the really lame Linux articles that are even more fluffy and cheerleaderish than this one? No. Well, maybe I am, now…
Anyhow, what’s the beef with Sun? Don’t like them, then don’t buy their stuff. Don’t want to read about them, don’t click into threads with the big Sun logo in the corner.
Please don’t assume that all readers (count the people that don’t mouth off at every chance and just READ) are “saturated” with this.