Despite its description as a technology proving ground, Fedora II provides Linux users with a good Linux desktop experience. For veteran Linux users, Fedora II will provide you with the productivity tools you need and the latest stable open-source technology. You can even use the Red Hat up-to-date service for free to keep your desktop current. Read Tom Adelstein’s product review of Fedora Linux Core II.
Product review: Fedora Linux Core II
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The whole review is either Fedora ass kissing or talking about open source software that comes with any distro of linux. The only thing they mentioned that was a specific experience with Fedora is when a upgrade screwed up one of the machines and they had to reinstall. And then they gave it 4.5/5 stars?
Hmm, interesting. That reviewer is using one of my screenshots on his article! It’s the “first” one here: http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=5057
Not that I mind, but that was from Fedora Core 1, not 2. 😉
The title of the shell in that screenshot is “eugenia@athlonxp”. I guess I have to give Fedora credit for having a professional “look & feel”
I have had Fedora core 2 , on my laptop for about 3 weeks. and i have no complaints so far.
I have been running it since the week it came out… I started with RedHat 6, and every version including FC1 and FC2. It just keeps getting better (and bigger – not necessarily a good thing).
I have an xorg.conf file for running FC2 inside VMware workstation on my site if anyone is interested http://www.mikeskinner.net/ – that was my biggest hurdle.
As usual, the first thing I do after installing is to stop all those un-necessary services. Then my old P3 starts much faster and uses much less memory.
I’m glad they included XFce 4 (my favourite desktop) – however it needs to be installed manually (it doesn’t appear in the setup prcoess as an option).
Updates are nice and frequent too – I have Mozilla 1.7.2 and Kernel 2.6.7 🙂
I use Fedora Core 2, and I am very happy with it. I have tried many distros, and it is the one I feel most comfortable with. One reason is the great integration of the GNOME desktop. Fedora is currently on:
My laptop
My mom’s computer
My desktop
I thought Fedora Core 2 was too old to be reviewed!
I thought that all serious reviews were conducted within seconds of the ISO’s being available. In fact, are the MOST serious reviews conducted on the Pre-releases?
There is a name to be made for someone with a dispassionate mind to spend a minimum amount of time using a distribution and then writing a lucent article on their experiences.
Anyway – similar to Mike, Ive been using RedHat since the 5.2 days and have used all the releases. I tried FC1 for AMD64, but am now on i386 FC2. No complaints.
At the risk of stirring it up – I LIKE the spatial mode.
Dunk
Does anybody know what the author mean by saying “For the Linux veterans, it’s one of the last “free” distributions of GNU/Linux.”?
Stealing images; weird commentary;
This guy is nuts.
Ok what I don’t like.
“Some analysts have described it as a beta product — a description with which I disagree.”
– That’s true. Look at vnc-server it beta… and it freez after 8 days… sorry but update it. The vnc-server 4.0 is out.
– Mrtg, its version 2.10.5 that fedora have. But there are some stupid bugs, like the static
`Daily’ Max In 594.0 `Weekly’ Max In 882 but then under `Yearly’ Max In 428 ?? Max in must be max and not, well I don’t know that this is but it’s not max.
– pack system!!
Well its rpm but to install rpm’s for it there are too many systems.
Apt-rpm, (the one I use)
Yum, why? Don’t apt-rpm work? And it don’t have a front-end like synaptic.
And this up2date, that don’t install kernels.
– There are many places that you can find rpm’s for fedora, and that’s ok. But they don’t work together. And no of them have rpm’s for “rowride” or betas. Like if you well follow testing, and so on you well have to uninstall apt-rpm and synaptic+++. In mandrake they have rpm’s for cooker.
I hope that they well fix some problems so that 3. part providers like “Dag’s rpm” and “freshrpm” work better together with fedora.
I have fedora core 2 on a box, (home server) and it’s ok. Not killer good, but ok.
I am looking forward to core 3.
I can’t install FC 2 in my laptop, HP XE4500
(. The keyboard don’t work but if I boot the install with the kernel option nousb, the anaconda don’t recognize my touchpad. If I install the FC intext mode when I reboot the laptop the usb problem is again. I don’t have this bug since I install Mandrake 9.1 or 9.0.
Apt-rpm, (the one I use)
Yum, why? Don’t apt-rpm work? And it don’t have a front-end like synaptic.
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yum is used because apt4rpm is not multi architecture compatible unlike yum and yum has a frontend now besides up2date which can use yum/apt repos
http://www.cobind.com/images/desktop_screenshots/yumi.png
The yummy website: http://www.cobind.com/labs/0001.html
And this up2date, that don’t install kernels.
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it does.run up2date-config and remove the kernel from the skip list
redhat is still in the process of setting up their stuff so that it can accomodate external packagers like debian or mandrake. its somehow taking up more time. you will have to wait to get fedora extras and fedora alternatives like mandrake cooker
Like Windows MM for Windows 2000? Why is he using roman numbers, I don’t get it.
fedora core 2 dont have yummi.
Yum is slow.
” you will have to wait to get fedora extras and fedora alternatives like mandrake cooker”
what I wos thinking of wos that mandrake cooker (cooker is the mandrake dev. like redhat’s rowride) works 100% ok with plf packs http://plf.zarb.org/index.php but fedora core or fedora betas (dev) dont work with other like dags, freshrpms…
And its bad habits to have betas of server, and not updating them when final is out.
What ever happened to cobind? Haven’t seen any news from them for awhile. I’ve been meaning to try Cobind but have been too busy in the windows world to install my PCI-IDE card and add a third disk to the system to play with the tweaked out xfce desktop.
I dabbed a little with fedora but as a desktop user didn’t feel at all wowed by it, thought yum was slow (I remember it being faster in YDL on my PPC 6500), and couldn’t just update from one version to the next using yum or apt4rpm.
i second this article as bottom kissing Fedora and in my opinion it only gives A nightmare experience. It is totally buggy right out of the box!!! It’s just that the way i see this is RedHat gave up on their products and letting other people do the their dirty work… This article is just a biased opinion to get attention, so that they could gather more ‘guinea pigs’…
RedHat gave up on their products and letting other people do the their dirty work… This article is just a biased opinion to get attention, so that they could gather more ‘guinea pigs’…
Who’s trying to get attention? sounds like you.
Nobody is doing dirty work for Red Hat they write the code, supply patches, host main servers, write the documentation, set the guidelines, etc.
I use Fedora Core 2 and have ran into two bugs since the first week it came out. one was the XP duel boot issue which is a serious bug, but Mandrake and SuSe also had them (find links yourself if you want).
The second was the other day with some libono update or something. I figured after the update I should restart gdm and an error popped up saying restarted gdm too many times (or something to that effect) and gave me a dialog to delete some file, I figured it to be temp files it was getting rid of but it was deleting things like my weather applet and clock stuff from panel, long story short I had to right click and add them again.
My take, It’s bleading edge so bugs will happen but it doesn’t package “beta” software, it packages the latest “stable” software (perhaps there are 2-3 exceptions?) I am a geek so I like this kind of distro, much like someone running running debian testing or gentoo.
I bought Doom III yesterday and it completly locks my system up after about 30 minutes of play, does this mean doom III is crap, beta software we should get a refund for and go play quake 3? No. This is the price geeks pay for being the first one on the block to have it. Most of us understand this while the rest of you put flame other distro’s in hopes someone will try yours.
Fedora 2 has given a mix of feelings.
I like it because I have it in a dvd format, and I can download every package I want for it in net.
But i have problems like cann’t access internet from dial up (I connect but do not receive any packets, although I have no firewall) .
The xmmss doesn’t minimise completely in taskbar at KDE, leaving playlist and equilaser always on the the screen.
If I learn Fedora I simply learn Fedora. I am going to replace with slackware 10 this week.
Hmm, interesting. That reviewer is using one of my screenshots on his article! It’s the “first” one here: http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=5057
Not that I mind, but that was from Fedora Core 1, not 2. 😉
Mmm, that’s weird. Looks kind of unprofessional.
“””I use Fedora Core 2 and have ran into two bugs since the first week it came out. one was the XP duel boot issue which is a serious bug—
—The second was the other day with some libono update or something. I figured after the update I should restart gdm and an error popped up saying restarted gdm too many times (or something to that effect) and gave me a dialog to delete some file, I figured it to be temp files it was getting rid of but it was deleting things like my weather applet and clock stuff from panel, long story short I had to right click and add them again.
—My take, It’s bleading edge so bugs will happen but it doesn’t package “beta” software, it packages the latest “stable” software
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I bought Doom III yesterday and it completly locks my system up after about 30 minutes of play, does this mean doom III is crap, beta software we should get a refund for and go play quake 3? No. This is the price geeks pay for being the first one on the block to have it. Most of us understand this while the rest of you put flame other distro’s in hopes someone will try yours. “””
Sucks to be you… and your ‘band-aid’ distro…
“Nobody is doing dirty work for Red Hat they write the code, supply patches, host main servers, write the documentation, set the guidelines, etc.”
So what. all they do is just modify it and worse, corrupt the code.
“My take, It’s bleading edge so bugs will happen but it doesn’t package “beta” software, it packages the latest “stable” software (perhaps there are 2-3 exceptions?) I am a geek so I like this kind of distro, much like someone running running debian testing or gentoo.”
It does not package ‘Beta Software’ but is a Beta Distro.
“””I bought Doom III yesterday and it completly locks my system up after about 30 minutes of play, does this mean doom III is crap, beta software we should get a refund for and go play quake 3? No. This is the price geeks pay for being the first one on the block to have it. Most of us understand this while the rest of you put flame other distro’s in hopes someone will try yours.”””
—Doom is not crap, The Distro that running it is… i am not advertising my Distro and FYI im running *BSD.
“My take, It’s bleading edge so bugs will happen but it doesn’t package “beta” software, it packages the latest “stable” software (perhaps there are 2-3 exceptions?) I am a geek so I like this kind of distro, much like someone running running debian testing or gentoo.”
– yes its does gives users the same thing that we have with redhat 9.0 and all others before they renamed redhat to fedora. it ok that they have betas in fedora but when final os out they must update the beta softwares, to have servers software like vnc-server is (its a server on the internett, this is not like xmms) stupid.
debian testing is testeing.. fedora core is stable..
“I bought Doom III yesterday and it completly locks my system up after about 30 minutes of play, does this mean doom III is crap, beta software we should get a refund for and go play quake 3? No. This is the price geeks pay for being the first one on the block to have it. Most of us understand this while the rest of you put flame other distro’s in hopes someone will try yours.”
– doom is a game!! and you get updates for it.. its not like a server software that sende passwords over internett like vnc-server does..
I am happy with Fedora …
I’m not really impressed with this review. The author could of gone into greater detail by showing more screen shots and posting actual test results such as benchmarked applications. Also Fedora Core II has been out for a while so this review is a little late.
I am pleased how well the Fedora Project is developing. This coming from a SuSE Linux user though I still would recommend the free installation of SuSE Linux over installing Fedora because it’s more stable and offers more. In time the Fedora Project will mature more and improve the distribution which will make it more attractive to both home consumers and businesses. Other RPM based distributions I found that are good are Yellow Dog Linux and Mandrake Linux. Both of which can be installed on PPC systems giving Apple users an alternative to using OSX.
The great thing is that computer users have the freedom to choose what OS they run on their hardware. It doesn’t matter if you are an x86 user or a PPC user. We are no longer limited to using the OS that came with the computer purchase.
The reviewer’s use of Eugenia’s screenshot is troubling. Permission is one issue. He is also basically lying, because the screenshots are implied to be from the installation he is reviewing. Given the reviewer’s supposed credentials listed at the bottom of the page, his behavior is surprising.
“I bought Doom III yesterday and it completly locks my system up after about 30 minutes of play, does this mean doom III is crap, beta software we should get a refund for and go play quake 3?”
I picked up Doom III yesterday and am having problems with it too. It keeps crashing out to windows.
I played doom3 yesterday to the end…I never frozed…
>>>Doom is not crap, The Distro that running it is… i am not advertising my Distro and FYI im
>>> running *BSD.
This “Disto” running it is Windows, sorry you can’t place blame on Fedora like you tried to do.
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?s=4f6ead1af3db9484b308…
look at the _several_ bugs being reported; Mine and Jim’s lock up is only one of many problems. My point is when brand new software is out it can’t be thoroughly tested in all situations.
This comparison brings up other relevant points too, this lock-up issue appears to be tied to certain video cards but do we blame windows? no. Do we blame Doom III? no. Do we blame ATI or Nvidia? yes. But it doesn’t work that way on Linux, when someone has a problem with a Radeon card on a Linux review who do they ‘always’ blame; yes they blame the distro like every distro has an army of linux dev’s who can write better drivers than the guys paid by the card manufacturer.
>>>- doom is a game!! and you get updates for it.. its not like a server software that sende
>>> passwords over internett like vnc-server does.
I can assure you for people who went out and paid $60 USD the first day it came out but can’t play the game this is as serious a bug as there is to them.