According to Debian Planet, the Sarge freeze is now official and a May 30 release date has been set.
Debian Sarge Freeze Now Official – Release Date Set
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Can’t wait to get my hands on a distro that’s full of old packages…
“Perfectly stable”, they would say.
Seriously, they’ve just changed their release procedure I believe, give ’em some time to adjust.
Debian is about being rock solid. I trust my servers to Debian and I have yet to be disapointed.
Finally!
I was fearing it would release after the summer.
I was already thinking about making our servers Ubuntu.
Now let’s hope the debian maintainers make etch release on time.
I know you’re going to mod at least two of those comments out, but that Duke one is priceless.
Thank you.
Yea, I just wish the guy were literate enough to write his name in the box.
…Hell seems to have frozen over…
One word: FINALLY!!!
And no, the software is not old at all. It is on a par with Man(drake/driva) 2005.
Finally! After they’ve released Sarge I can finally stop using Sarge and move on to Etch. 🙂
Better old and good than young and immature
I suppose that just means I’ll get current security updates?
…at least it comes out before Longhorn.
I like using Linux better than Windows. The Linux community that is represented here should be ashamed of itself. The sarcasim is not needed. If you use a perticular distro than stick to those topics and stop putting down debian if your a debian user, rejoice in the fact that Sarge is being released.
I suppose that just means I’ll get current security updates?
No. It just means you’ll get the security updates from the Debian stable security team instead of the Debian testing security team.
http://www.debian.org/security/
http://secure-testing.alioth.debian.org/
some one get the defibulator i think i just had a heartattack
The comments are funny, even the Debian maintainers have said this release cycle is taking too long. I do think they should speed up the release cycle a bit and I’m sure they will. I don’t expect Debian to release as often as other distros as they want to make sure it’s stable and ready for release, but they should still try and keep the timeframe under 2 years (which this release has gone well past).
i only have to hold my breath for 30 more days!
This is geat news!!
If they pull this off and speed up the release cycle a little, I just may switch from Ubuntu back to pure Debian.
Maybe
debian – still the best and hopefully everything is in place now to keep it there! heres hoping for not longer than 18month release cycles!
install once, upgrade forever
I did a search on Distrowatch and found 114 Distros all based on Debian. Probably none of these would exists without Debian, including the beloved Ubuntu.
“I did a search on Distrowatch and found 114 Distros all based on Debian. Probably none of these would exists without Debian, including the beloved Ubuntu.”
Nothing could be more certain. Trouble is, too many nowadays seem to forget it.
Ubuntu is great but the guy who wants to use it on his servers, someone ought to teach him what servers are and what Debian is
This made my day! I’ve been using Sid actually, but now after the official Sarge release the developers would hopefully have more time for other things…
Will the amd64 architecture soon be supported?
Are the same that were complaining yesterday about Debian not releasing Sarge.
stuff i like about debian
+ debian’s apt-get
+ having lots of packages ready to install
stuff i don’t like about debian
– having a release every 2-3 years
Ive always put Debian on our servers and it’s Never let me down. I dont think those of us in the production grade computing world would replace bleeding edge features over stability.Of course a server install is , in our case, very specialized.
-nX
stuff i don’t like about debian
– having a release every 2-3 years
Having a stable release every 18-24 months would be ideal for most servers. Desktop users can use the testing development branch (with apt-listbugs installed and some packages pulled from the unstable development branch) to get a more up-to-date Debian system.
Oh, and maybe you’d like to add the new easy-to-use Debian installer (which Ubuntu has already adopted) to your list of pluses. I’d also add debconf, but this seems to be a matter of taste. (TIP: You can do “dpkg-reconfigure debconf” and set it to “critical” level, which tells debconf to only bother you with critical questions.)
I want to try out Debian, have heard so much good stuff about it. I wanted to know how Debian compares to the other distribution of Linux, primarily Fedora, and Gentoo. It would be nice if someone could shed some light over that. Thanks.
a 2-3 years release schedule is not ideal for servers. debian woody is wayyyyy outdated. does this mean is more stable? no. debian woody’s linux kernel doesn’t support many hardware today.
the debian project should change its release schedule. it’s one of its biggest failures.
sarge (next stable version) will become outdated
testing doesn’t get security updates. well i know now it’s getting them as they have frozen sarge. but it’s temporarily
unstable could be unstable. it’s supposed to be a developers only thing.
and the debian project only recommends using the stable version. and they don’t say debian is tailored for servers only.
debian has great tools for upgrading/installing/etc software… but ironically they release a version once every 2 or 3 years…
and yes, debian is much faster than fedora. but the latter is easier to install.
“debian woody’s linux kernel doesn’t support many hardware today.
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This shouldn’t be a problem for Sarge, thanks to the new debian-installer. See http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2004/08/msg01941.html – “a goal of d-i has always been to release updates to the installer in between major debian releases, and these updates would likely include new kernels” New kernels = updated hardware support.
“the debian project should change its release schedule. it’s one of its biggest failures.”
Yep. Feel free to share your own ideas on the topic at http://wiki.debian.net/?ReleaseProposals.
“testing doesn’t get security updates. well i know now it’s getting them as they have frozen sarge. but it’s temporarily”
No, this is no longer true. Check out the new Testing security team at http://secure-testing.alioth.debian.org.
“unstable could be unstable. it’s supposed to be a developers only thing.”
No, it isn’t. They just don’t want to take on the support burden of having people using it who don’t know enough to deal with the occasional problems that might crop up. They want power users to test the packages in Unstable, so that bugs will be caught before the package propagates into Testing.
“they don’t say debian is tailored for servers only.”
That’s because it isn’t. If they said that, it wouldn’t be true.
good comment
debian contributes a lot of good stuff to the community.
ubuntu and libranet being a good example of this.
peace man,
jim
Hi, I recently installed Sarge on my brandnew dedicated Root-Server. Is it sufficient to change sources.list and do a “apt-get dist-upgrade” when I want to upgrade to the “stable” version of Debian ????
It’s best to specify exactly which release you’re after by name. Just make sure your sources.list is pointing to “Sarge” and not “Testing”, or else you’ll no longer be using Sarge once it’s been moved to Stable.
Thank you – that was exactly my thought when I edited sources.list last time …
I’m really looking forward to Sarge since I recently found a page showing a long list of packages with security problems (like Apache e.g.) that aren’t fixed in the current “Testing” (Sarge) release …