Yellowtab’s Zeta (pronounced “zeeta”) is now declared golden. They are taking orders now and it will ship in about 2 weeks.
YellowTAB Zeta R1 goes Gold
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Eugenia Loli
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2005-06-17 10:30 pm
Does it run on Intel?
Doesn’t everything run on Intel now?
Last time Berne dopped in, didn’t he mention something about a Live CD?
By this time next year we might be able to triple-boot Windows, OS X and Zeta. Strangeness indeed.
Although I’ve moved on to OS X it’ll be neat to play with Zeta. Sounds like the final is truly going to be an updated BeOS.
Does it run on Athlon64?
and, to the yT team : Ausgezeichnet!
I do belive that it does. I have not seen it myself but I am sure it has been reported to. I also believe that Bernd has said they are/going to have a 64bit version. I don’t know the details.
Uh, how much is this in U.S. dollars? I notice they don’t offer a conversion for shoppers on this side of the Atlantic.
@DFergATL:
Yeah, ZETA 1.0 “Venture” codename.
Anyway i must get it for my SV Laptop
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I will have to buy 2 copies.
A year from now, I might actually have BeOS on a Macintosh!
Which, btw, would make the driver situation with BeOS a problem of the past: just concentrate on the Mac hardware, support that well and there you go!
I used to care about BeOS so much. In fact, it was my only OS for a time from 2000-2002. Zeta works quite well on my last living PC (a K6-233 with a whopping 60MB of RAM), but I don’t really do anything with it. OS X won.
The time has finally come, I can’t say I’m too impressed by YellowTab’s costumer relationship (one update on official homepage a month), but I’ll hope their product is better (besides I’ve already bought NEO, so I guess it would make no sense not buying R1). Hurray!
Too bad already fighting flame wars, for what?
@ Mario; Hehe! Cool ; )
Well, I’d sure be relieved from Phos Beta 6 with it’s opentracker nightmare, at least I hope I can expect proper support with Zeta, no offense loon but you just do what you like too which is 100% OK but I rather have a stable and useable OS : )
Merry christmas everyone! (I feel that way : ) )
It does run on an AMD64, in fact it uses special memcpy instructions for it since the Venture kernel.
But how does it run on an AMD X2?
I will be buying this. Can’t wait
Glad to see all the support for new CPUs.
95.00 GBP = 172.945 USD
1 GBP = 1.82047 USD 1 USD = 0.549309 GBP
I tried BeOS back in the day many times. I just did not like it overall. Wonder how this will be. I really like OSX. It would take something really special to win me over from that.
YAY Zeta R1 will be out soon!!
I wonder what the video editing app will be like?
I don’t think it will be as good as Movie Maker in Win XP though, but it might ^_^!
95.00 EUR = 116.15 USD
1 EUR = 1.22260 USD
1 USD = 0.817926 EUR
Euginea, please modify the commenting system so that people need to login/register before posting comments – the amount of trolls appearing on this website will drive away long time readers.
FWIW, ZETA installs and works fine on my hp pavilion with an AMD/64 Athlon 3000+.
To the YellowTab team. May you and the Haiku developers keep the BeOS flame alight. Now, is anyone coding pro audio hardware drivers for Zeta/Haiku?
Oliver was doing a driver for the Hoontech DSP24 C-Port but he only got to an alpha state and pulled the plug. It would be great to see some decent audio hardware supported so I can use the OS for my passion (music).
Pretty much seems that they don’t care about this market.
It would be great if they could either continue to develop Olivers driver or pay him to do it. Even though the DSP2000 has been discounted, ESI is still making it under a new name, and it’s a cheap interface nowdays.
But I’ll be selling mine soon to buy a Firepod. Since there won’t be any BeOS driver for the DSP24 and the linux driver is flaky, I’m giving up on it. I bought it pretty much because of Olivers promise of a driver.
Hopefully Haiku will have support for firewire audio interfaces eventually.
And hopefully there will be some useful apps eventually.
But it seems that yT just doesn’t care about that market. I suggested at their forum that they should port JUCE to Zeta and get Raw Material/Trackie to port Tracktion to BeOS. This is a very possible thing to do since the app is light and very portable. And it would bring semi-pro audio production to BeOS.
Yet yT simply choose to ignore my suggestion.
I can’t develop websites in Zeta (lack of decent apache/php support), and I can’t make music in Zeta (lack of drivers and software).
I simply have no use for it.
It’s just too little too late.
Yeah, pity as audio and video are the areas where Zeta would really shine. I do realise they are resource limited but it would be a great market to tap especially now with the Apple crap going on. Bring Zeta to the Audio crowd and show them what a real media orientated OS is capable of and you’ll have them dumping Apple Macs and Windows on their ass.
As for web development, there are always the good old text editors method of site creation. I personally don’t web develop but my co worker does and she just codes by hand in Vim (I think).
Funny how you mentioned the purchasing of the C-port based on the availability of BeOS drivers. I did the same. Linux support isn’t to bad once you track down the Envy control Panel but audio in Linux is a real quest wrought with teething problems. Mine for the moment is getting Jack to run in normal user space instead of having to run it as a root user. It really is frustrating and even then, I know that Linux would not be as capable as Zeta but then, it’s a step up from WindowsXP which is a real PIA. Hoontech’s drivers are crap and work like garbage on the Windows platform. At least ALSA is reliable and functions relatively well.
Might have to ditch the C-Port and try something else like the Echo 3 Gina, ESI Julia or the Emu 1820M.
I would like personally the Julia as I don’t need much in the input side of things as most of what I want to creat would be VST based. Now Reason on Zeta, that would rock.
What does BeOS give me that a recent 2.6 kernel will not (and I’m not talking about “intangibles” like “the UI feels better”)
What does BeOS give me that a recent 2.6 kernel will not (and I’m not talking about “intangibles” like “the UI feels better”)
I often see comments in the KDE/Gnome flamewar threads that essentially say “I like the simplicity and consistency/attention to UI detail of Gnome, but I like the modularity and modern C++ toolkit of KDE – I wish there was a DE that had both sets of attributes.” Well, basically, that’s what BeOS is.
If this is as good as they are saying it will be, then Windows will only be on my Laptop, merely for DOOM Legacy editing. I’ll put Be on this puppy, and live a happy stress free life between it and my Amiga.
> What does BeOS give me that a recent 2.6 kernel will not
> (and I’m not talking about “intangibles” like “the UI feels
> better”)
# Very short boot/shutdown times (20 – 30 secs)
# Very responsive UI
# Pervasive drag-and-drop support that is easy to use
# Live queries w/support for extended attributes
# Easy installation of apps (just drop app in a folder and go)
There may be more, but this is what comes to mind off the top of my head.
>I can’t develop websites in Zeta (lack of decent apache/php
> support), and I can’t make music in Zeta (lack of drivers
> and software).
I have no trouble running php on my Zeta box. I use php 4.0 (can be found on BeShare, http://bebits.com/app/1330) together with Xitami (http://bebits.com/app/2383) and PostgreSQL (http://bebits.com/app/2752) to run a user forum (phpBB).
The only shortcoming I noticed so far is thet the php build lacks mail() support, but there are ways around that (smtp). So there really is no excuse
http://www.begroovy.com/wordpress/?p=557
this about pro.audiocards (Echo)
but what about SATA support? BeOS doesn’t see my hard drive.
But how is the wireless support? They have never shed any light on this. I really hope they offer a live CD so i can try it out on my P3 500 laptop. XP is just to slow, and linux is worse unless i stick to IceWM with ROX-Filer so hopefully this will give me a fast modern OS to use.
Not to mention that I have not yet to find any OS as capable in handling multiple media streams like BeOS did. That trusty K6-400 could run 4 divx streams and 10 ogg streams and still have responsiveness in the UI. Not to mention all media streams played properly. I could Rip a CD to Ogg and play the Ogg files as it was being ripped (real time).
Nothing in Windows/Mac/Linux has given me the same media capabilities even with greater hardware. The state of the main stream OS’s for media handling and creation is a fucking joke and an insult to computer users and content creaters. Still, keeps some DSP companies in money as you need dedicated hardware on the mainstream platforms to be able to do what BeOS was capable on lesser generic PC hardware. I kid you not!
If you want an example of the capabilities of BeOS and media with generic hardware then look at the Radio Automation software package Tune Tracker
http://www.tunetrackersystems.com/
Software that cut the cost of radio automation from the high tens of thousands in dedicated hardware to sub five thousand dollars. No mean feat and not possible without BeOS underlying the package.
The problem with the original BeOS was the media kit had screwed multi channel support which was limiting but this has been rectified with Haiku’s rewritten media kit.
Steinberg was before the Be Inc focus shift, demoing a beta of Nuendo on both Windows and BeOS and the BeOS version kick the crap out of the Windows 2000 version on the same hardware.
Hope this helps explain a few things, not that I’m passionate about BeOS but plug and play only has worked for me in BeOS to where a complete system upgrade except the hard drive Windows buged out on the boot whilst BeOS booted and recognised everything and gave me my desktop with everything the way it had been and fully functional. Never seen that before or since.
One of the best demos to sum up BeOS was a 3D cube with every side featuring its own movie stream which was playing on generic late 90’s hardware and spining and capable of being manipulated by the user without dropping a single frame.
yellowTAB has already announced that ZETA 1.0 will have wireless support. As a matter of fact, I saw a beta running on a couple of Centrino-based laptops at the LinuxWorld Expo/Tokyo 2005 last week, and wireless was working on both of them.
I’d like to know more about the video editor and office suite! I hope they release something on it soon!
That’s good news. Now just to see if my Belkin Wireless v2 works.
No, Amiga OS 4 runs on PPC.
http://amiga.com
http://www.yellowtab.com/news/article.php?id=131
They created new (their own, not Linux ones) NDIS wrappers around existing Windows WIFI drivers, if I’m correct. Meaning there’s a high probability your wireless networking will work.
Great, wonderful and i am very lucky to see ZETA R1.
I have ordered the best OS in this century . OK, MAC OS X is very good, too. But ZETA is better and faster.
A good alternative to WindowsXP ==> Format C: , yeah, i am really exhilarated :-)))
I spent no more money to M$
> That’s good news. Now just to see if my Belkin Wireless v2 works.
In their announcement they claimed support for Centrino only, but since the wireless support in ZETA seems to be based on a (propriatery) implementation of an ndis wrapper, it may work if you have an ndis driver for you Berlkin.
> That’s good news. Now just to see if my Belkin Wireless v2 works.
In their announcement, yT claims support for Centrino, but since the wireless support in ZETA seems to be based on a (propriatery) implementation of an ndis wrapper, it may work if you have an ndis driver for you Berlkin.
Hmmmmm. I’m waiting for Haiku.
YAY! Finaly a video editing app with a kickass interface (PersonalStudios interface sucked) and its really good that the Pro version will be able to burn to dvd!
Great! This is highly unusual. The lack of flames in an osnews thread that is
What we need now is some new/updated appz. And of course developer tools.
I personaly would like to see FreePascal 2.0 and Purebasic ported to Zeta.
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