Today is TV-watching day at OSNews. Today’s latest is from Marcus Hesse, who writes, “I recently captured this from an old VHS handout of this keynote. In 1997, Apple was nearly bankrupt, and was in desperate need of help. This keynote marks the return of Steve Jobs to Apple, complete with a Bill Gates appearance, and a very emotional crowd. Quicktime 7 is required to view it, as it is in H.264.” This nostalgic video is available through this Bittorrent link.
what did save jobs from being bakrupt?
hehe…thepiratebay…
any seeds for the torrent? i’ve had it open for ages but still no seeds!
pac
pac,
I am seeding it now to 67 peers…maybe your network & settings have something to do with it?
Nearly bankrupt in 1997? Hardly. Apple reported $7 billion in revenue that year. I think it’s wild speculation to say they were “nearly bankrupt”. Not doing well, or operating at a loss might have been accurate, but “nearly bankrupt” is untruthful.
I’m also at 0k on the torrent. I downloaded the Neo Office/J torrent earlier and that worked fine. So far it’s reporting 4 peers and 0 seeders.
Is their something other then a torrent for those of us who don’t use bit torrent?
title says it all
If its from an old VHS tape, why in the world did it need H.264? Seems a bit of overkill to me, and only serves to prevent most people from even viewing it.
“Nearly bankrupt in 1997? Hardly. Apple reported $7 billion in revenue that year. I think it’s wild speculation to say they were “nearly bankrupt”. Not doing well, or operating at a loss might have been accurate, but “nearly bankrupt” is untruthful.”
Thank you.
And before anybody says anything, the 250m stock buy would have been a drop in the bucket for any big tech company, as it was for Apple. The significance of the stock purchase was a symbolic one, not a financial one.
>why in the world did it need H.264? Seems a bit of overkill to me, and only serves to prevent most people from even viewing it.
Huh? H.264 has the best compression of all of them… how is making it H.264 overkill?
He, like so many others are confused about codecs and somewhere along the line got mixed up with H.264 and HD H.264.
I love watching Apple keynotes, I don’t have a Mac and I’m still not sure about getting one but one thing I do love is these videos. I can’t think of any other company making an OS that comes out with regular videos like this, sure MS releases videos but they are usually quite short and target big businesses with a sales pitch rather than home users with cool new features.
I’m hoping a lot of other companies will learn from this kind of thing, I’d really like to see some companies behind Linux distributions start making similar videos every year where they show off what new features will be in the next version of their OS a week or a month before its release.
Because version 6.5 of QT is available for windows?
Quicktime 6.5 for windows will play h.264 movies. Sorry for the confusion this migh have caused you.
WOW, I mean you would think the audience were watching live sports. They must have rented the audience for it, it was build mostly from Apple stock holders, or the audience is plain brain washed.
According to the video, they had 7% market share in 1997…
And he said that 64% of websites were made on Mac…
And someone said that there were 20 – 25 million mac users.
Wow… Compared to now, it seems quite a lot!! Has Apple really got a lot smaller? But still more profitable? Hmmm…
No, the computer-using population just grew really fast, and Apple did not keep up with the expansion rate of Windows machines (though, this has been changing in reverse lately).
It doesn’t work in QuickTime 6.5.2 on my computer, however there is an early release of QuickTime 7 for Windows that can be downloaded here: http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/preview/
are you THE James Dorn? or just a guy witht he same name.
He did the presentation using NeXTSTEP (what Mac OS X was based on)running on an IBM Thinkpad.
I love the crowd. Everyone gasps when Jobs says “Microsoft.” I actually laughed out loud.
I actually laughed out loud
Don’t we all! :B
I remember watching that movie about 4 years ago and they referenced this keynote (Noah Wyle as Jobs and Anthony Michael Hall as Gates). Kind of fun to see that actual keynote and to see the reaction of the crowd. It seems to be working out very very well for Apple these days but I can see how Mac users were a bit skeptical of this back in 97!
Sorry for misspelling.
Shawn wrote:
Nearly bankrupt in 1997? Hardly. Apple reported $7 billion in revenue that year. I think it’s wild speculation to say they were “nearly bankrupt”. Not doing well, or operating at a loss might have been accurate, but “nearly bankrupt” is untruthful.
We, at Apple had 3 months left of working capital to keep the doors open.
Yes we were on the brink of bankrupt, which was fucking annoying for us who only became Apple employees after the NeXT Merger and because of this NeXT’s own IPO was obvious canceled.
TonyB wrote:
He did the presentation using NeXTSTEP (what Mac OS X was based on)running on an IBM Thinkpad.
Yeah I know, the same damn ThinkPad I had to configure for Avie to present Telfon (unreleased Openstep with modified AppKit and Foundation) to Gil Amelio.
That was using beta device drivers even then.
Dl’d QT7 preview for windows (had 6.5 installed), ran installer…when I open the MacWorld .mov, QT just hangs (and none of the menu items do anything when I click them). Rebooted, uninstalled/reinstalled…same thing. No .mov files play correctly. Any Windows users having any success with this thing? As if I didn’t already hate QT enough. I really would like to see this video!
The newest version of QT Alternative works
That did the trick, though I would still love to know why QT7 was bombing on my machine. Thx again.
Hm, with bittorrent I always feel left outside in the rain, as the corporate firewall forbids it’s use … Any mirrors out there?
VLC should also do it. I love these type of flashbacks
I can setup an http stream for you; click my name and use the “contact” form, I’ll ping you back w/ details.
Marc Driftmeyer:
As you seemed to be around Apple at that time, i have 2 questions i’m wondering about.
1: What were the reactions of the NeXT employees when it was announced that they would become a part of Apple?
2: What were the reactions of Apple employees to the same announcment?
Thanks in advance.
Cheers,
b0bben
I still think life would have been better if BeOS would have been chosen for OS X instead of NeXT (damn JLG on his high horses)…
How does one configure BitTorrent in order to make it work behind a firewall and NAT? Any information would be appreciated.
You need to open a port between 6881-6889 in order for BitTorrent to work at its fastest speed. Its a two way connection otherwise you’ll get really slow downloads if you aren’t configured to share yourself.
Thanks. That seems to be the solution, the download speed was so slow before that I thought I was not connected.
This makes BitTorrent very inconvenient to use for me. Wish an alternative HTTP download site was available.
Get you KDX client here:
http://www.haxial.com
Then come visit us at:
hdx://apple-events.dyndns.org:10700
…for Mac evangelists only
It’s a place to share new and old Apple videos… just “do ut des”: leechers are not welcome
Regards,
Cacicia
Ops… this is the righ address:
kdx://apple-events.dyndns.org:10700
Clients like azureus/bitcomet only actually need 1 port open. They map all torrents to the one port you specify.
Hi all,
I can’t download the video via KDX or BT… Any alt. method to download?
Thanks
You wrote:
Marc Driftmeyer:
As you seemed to be around Apple at that time, i have 2 questions i’m wondering about.
1: What were the reactions of the NeXT employees when it was announced that they would become a part of Apple?
2: What were the reactions of Apple employees to the same announcment?
Thanks in advance.
Cheers,
b0bben
1: NeXT employees took it in stride and after the stock transfer negotiation only the redundant HR/Accounting teams were known to have their jobs either eliminated or waiting for a new one in Austin–most took jobs at various other companies including PIXAR. Some Professional Service Management bailed to take jobs at over twice their current salaries–I was happy for them but pissed as it screwed me for over a year without a direct manager nor any peer reviews ultimately adding to my decision to leave.
2: Apple employees had extremely mixed feelings. They whined about the Steve return meaning he would rip up the company to the fact that Steve was taking away their right to pay for Lattees (he replaced it with free lattees from a company he hired to provide such a nice amenity and everyone suddenly stopped whining on “free” stuff.) He changed the food menu which again provided much better options to choose from and enjoy our work days. Many blew an absolute gasket during the cancellation of the Sabbatical Program: over 1/3rd of the entire employment staff were up for 12 week paid vacations. We couldn’t afford this luxury so all Sabbaticals were canceled. This prompted many to bitch on the internal web site that this was the only reason they were sticking around which prompted many flame wars and ultimately Steve being happy the dead limbs were leaving so we could get back to work and rebuild Apple.
Most of the Apple employees had never worked with Steve Jobs and only, like most on Slashdot and elsewhere, based their views on third party information. I don’t know about you but when you can shoot the shit over a bagel with Steve Jobs and actually not worry about what you say, at the morning coffee counter then I’d say the man is rather genuine. He’s a perfectionist and one who rips out the best in most people. Most people are inherently lazy so I can see how they don’t take too kindly to him pushing them like Olympic athletes.
I don’t agree with many of his decisions, especially the non-existent role the Enterprise Software Group went which added to my leaving as well, but I respect him for his overall vision of rebuilding NeXT into Apple and hopefully we’ll continue to see OS X return to the direction we all discussed in 1997.
you really think tha thte acquzition of NeXT was about NeXTOS? that was only half the point. Jobs returning to APple was what saved the company. JLG would have killed apple faster than he killed Be.
Choosing Next over Be is a very good decision. The fact that Apple need not only technology to quickly help the company move forward while the Copland project becomes ill fate. The core problem of Apple was the company had lost their vision. BeOS is not a solution for Apple.
Now it prove Jobs ability to make a dead horse back to life. He already perform miracles, we just didn’t realise that.
apple would have turned beos into bloatos, so it’s a good thing apple got next (and logical, bc. it was steves “baby”) … eof.
Were you at Next when Apple switched to PowerPC (and thereby killed the 68k and put the nail in the coffin for Next hardware)? What did Steve Jobs think of it all?
Hey I am the only that when I downloaded the torrent, the file was a .TPB? What program do I open this with (using Linux)??? Shouldn’t it just open with totem-xine whether or not it’s .tpb? I’m sooo confused…
Have you had a chance to read “Steve Jobs and the Next Big Thing by Randall E. Stross”
Thanks a lot for the insight!
I always had a picture in my head of SJ being perfectionist and not too easy to work with because of his demands.
It seems that my picture wasn’t too screwed after all
Wasn’t the termination of the sabbatical leave a smart move to see who’s in it for apple, and who’s in it for the fame/glory/12-week vacation? I think so…
Thanks again for the answers, please don’t be shy and share more of your stories if you find the time.
Cheers,
b0bben