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the installer is better, the system is more integrated and it comes will cool features. yes Libranet is more bleeding, but you can run the tech preview cd to get that on xandros.
I think to compete libranet needs to cut the price by half.
but you can run the tech preview cd to get that on xandros.
Yeah, but if you run the tech preview version, you lose all the Xandros specific features.
Kreek
Lindows Insider
http://www.morphix.org
Knoppix/Debian based run from cd distro, with an option to install to hard disk with the easiest gui install wizard i’ve seen.
Hardware detection is the best of any distro thanks to being based on Knoppix. Software installation is the best due to being Debian based. Once installed to hard drive, apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade to get the latest packages and use synaptic for browsing available packages with a nice gui.
Easy to install, best hardware detection, easy to use, easy to update, bleeding edge, and free.
Wins hands down over Libranet or Xandros.
doesn’t work over a network in KDE.
I’ve eyed Libranet several times but can’t bring myself to spend $69.00 + just to try them out.
there is a 30 day money back guarantee so you got nothing to lose. give it a try.
>there is a 30 day money back guarantee so you got nothing to lose. give it a try.
Why bother forking out the dollars when you can use a free distro that gives you the same and more? If a linux distro wants to be purchase only, then it’s got to give you added value that you can’t get elsewhere for free.
Hardware detection is the best of any distro thanks to being based on Knoppix
So, why not just use knoppix?
“If a linux distro wants to be purchase only, then it’s got to give you added value that you can’t get elsewhere for free.”
I agree. And, as has been mentioned before, Libranet’s added value is (1) super easy Debian installation (2) one year of technical support (3) nvidia drivers, flashplayer, java, realplayer all easy to install via xadminmenu, and (4) custom selection of finely-tuned sarge and sid binaries. For me, xadminmenu alone is woth the price of admission. The rest is gravy.
>So, why not just use knoppix?
1. Ever tried to install Knoppix to hard-disk? Not easy.
2. I hate KDE. Morphix has iso’s with GNOME2.2 or KDE3.1 or IceWM, just choose your flavour.
“I agree. And, as has been mentioned before, Libranet’s added value is (1) super easy Debian installation (2) one year of technical support (3) nvidia drivers, flashplayer, java, realplayer all easy to install via xadminmenu, and (4) custom selection of finely-tuned sarge and sid binaries. For me, xadminmenu alone is woth the price of admission. The rest is gravy.”
Knoppix has all the above, minus 1 year support. 70 dollars for one years support that you probably won’t use much anyway is a bit steep in my book.
So, why not just use knoppix?
Also it’s more modular, so it’s easy to add things. Good design counts.
Choose your flavour here
https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=71814
Installing Morphix is simplicity itself; I doubt that Knoppix is any different. You just click on a few buttons and fill in your passwords and… thats it. But, that said, I hope Libranet is doing well and that they have the extra features aplenty that are really worth the money for their users.
>I doubt that Knoppix is any different. You just click on a few buttons and fill in your passwords and… thats it
On Morphix it’s much simpler than Knoppix. It’s also modular and I can get a version without the evil that is KDE. Knoppix is KDE only.
I haven’t been able to find any pursasive arguments to use Morphix (even on Morphix’s website). I’m not saying Knoppix is better. But, if Morphix is better, then why?
1. Ever tried to install Knoppix to hard-disk? Not easy.
Yeah I have. I thought it was the easiest and fastest Linux install that I’ve ever done. I did have just a bit of trouble getting lilo on the mbr. It was good but not perfect.
2. I hate KDE. Morphix has iso’s with GNOME2.2 or KDE3.1 or IceWM, just choose your flavour.
I love KDE. My only gripe is that it’s slow compared to other window managers. But, it also offers more features and an integrated environment than other WM’s.
Knoppix comes with all of basic WM’s. And, you have the option to not use KDE on Knoppix.
Also it’s more modular, so it’s easy to add things. Good design counts.
What does that mean?
Darren
Hardware detection is the best of any distro thanks to being based on Knoppix
You mean because it is based on the same kudzu (redhat) libs that Knoppix uses. Give credit where it is due. The guys at Redhat did most of the hardware detection work.
>You mean because it is based on the same kudzu (redhat) libs that Knoppix uses. Give credit where it is due. The guys at Redhat did most of the hardware detection work.
So why is Morphix the only distro (Including Redhat 8 and 9) that detects my USB Digital Camera, USB Steering wheel and USB Gamepad and correctly configure them?
>Yeah I have. I thought it was the easiest and fastest Linux install that I’ve ever done.
Morphix is even simpler. Trust me. My mother installed it on her PC as she was sick of windows 98 crashing all the time and she only surfs the web and sends email using hotmail and uses msn messenger. She did it all herself and even setup gaim for msn when I told her where it was and what it did. She’s 51 and doesn’t want to know how the computer works. She’s happy now.
>I love KDE.
Well you can download the KDE ISO. I don’t so i don’e want to download KDE at all. Choice is what its about.
>Also it’s more modular, so it’s easy to add things. Good design counts.
>What does that mean?
Read morphix.org. You can download the small base ISO, and build your own distro quite easily, add it to the base ISO and burn it, then it will boot off cd and run just like any of the iso’s you get off morphix.org
Libranet has never let me down as opposed to SUSE, Mandrake, and Redhat. Fast, easy to configure, good suport, and that luscious apt-get goodness. I recommend it unconditionally. Howeve, this Morphix has me intrigued. Anybody running it on a laptop? Wireless perhaps?
I am using Morphix on a Toshiba laptop it works great the only problem I have is my wireless network cards don’t work until the laptop is rebooted on a regular Linux dsitro kinda leaves it out for Morphix. I don’t know why I have tried restarting networking, pcmcia, and pulling an IP yet I find I have to reboot.
I like Libranet but north of $50 is a tough sell for many. 30-50 is the sweet spot imho.
Maybe if they decoupled all but the most support they could
offer it for less.
OTOH they probably crunched the numbers and realized that
anything more than zero is too much for some.
I think 39.95 is the magic number for Libranet.
best of luck to them.
First to the guy with the networking problem: visit one of the many support forums out there or do a search, i am sure, your problem can be solved.
Second about a Knoppix/Morphix HD install: To my knowledge both install into a single huge partition, something i personally dislike. But even worse, Knoppix is a wild mix of Debian stable and unstable which basically means, that a HD Knoppix install will turn into a SID. This might be OK for desktops or other non-critical applications, since you are bound to get some breakdowns now and then, but no choice for productive environments. Also, Mr. Knopper himself advises against this.
Third about the hardware detection: Knoppix uses the kudzu-library and says so. But the work is in the configuration tables that have currently no match in the GNU/Linux world.
Best regards
mdma, please behave like a civilised person. The topic is Libranet and not Morphix, so if you have nothing Libranet-specific to offer for discussion, then stay out. Thank you.
>Knoppix has all the above, minus 1 year support. 70 dollars for one years support that you probably won’t use much anyway is a bit steep in my book.
Really, it has xadminmenu.. interesting… you do realize that xadminmenu does more than install real/flash dont you?
Umm, I still recent the “Debian on steriods” name of this article. You say “easy to set up” … umm, Debian takes about 10 mins for me to install… “apt-get install discover x-window-system-core fluxbox kernel-image-2.4.20-1-686” will give me a fast GUI, automatic hardware detection and a newer faster kernel… I fail to see how you can get much easier then this?
People that diss the usability of Debian need to actually try using it… they need to allow themselves to learn… thats all it takes…
Debian is by far the easiest Distro I have used, its by far the fastest, and its by far the most stable. Libranet however took about 2 hours to install (time taken to be presented with “hostname login:”) it did find all my hardware, but so did discover….
Why pay for a distro that doesn’t do shit for themselves? You are getting Debian with some backports included, thats it … use Sarge and you will be just as up-to-date as with Libranet…. use Sid, and you will be more up-to-date…
>mdma, please behave like a civilised person. The topic is Libranet and not Morphix, so if you have nothing Libranet-specific to offer for discussion, then stay out. Thank you
Libranet= Debian based distro, Morphix =debian based distro that runs off cd also.
If by me mentioning Morphix on here I have saved someone 70 dollars, then I am a happy person. I could have mentioned AROS (htp://aros.sf.net) and dissed all Linux distro’s. I didn’t as this is a Linux thread.
Thank you.
You are right – this is a free world and you can do and write whatever you want.
You can go to a forum discussing Slackware or Pink Bra Linux and advocate against using those distribution, while trying to convince everybody that your favourite distribution is the absolute best thing since sliced bread. Surely, it suits your needs perfectly, so it goes without saying that it will suit everybody else’s needs too, right?
But if your are older than 12, then you should realise that this kind of unwarranted advocacy not only hurts the project you love so dearly, it also irritates the hell out of other readers.
No need to reply.
“You are right – this is a free world and you can do and write whatever you want.
You can go to a forum discussing Slackware or Pink Bra Linux and advocate against using those distribution, while trying to convince everybody that your favourite distribution is the absolute best thing since sliced bread. Surely, it suits your needs perfectly, so it goes without saying that it will suit everybody else’s needs too, right?
But if your are older than 12, then you should realise that this kind of unwarranted advocacy not only hurts the project you love so dearly, it also irritates the hell out of other readers.
No need to reply.”
I will though, and without stooping to personal insults.
I don’t use Morphix I use Debian proper. So I don’t ‘love so dearly’ Morphix, I just offered help those people on here that want the power of Debian with the ease of use of Libranet, but can’t afford to pay 70 dollars for it. If I wanted to hurt Libranet I’d have pointed out that v2.8 is on the edonkey network for a free download.
Not everyone is rich you know. That’s the point of the free software movement. Technology for the masses.
Learn to respect someone else’s opinion even if you don’t agree with it. You’ll find life in general will become a ot easier for you.
It seems like an unfinished product. Everything is in German, unless you know to type: “knoppix lang=en” at the command line, and you also have to know to shift-0 for “=”. OpenOffice was still in German.
The most most primitive linux installation I have ever seen. All of the sudden, I get an “installing packages” message, no clue as to which packages are installed, certainly I was given no choice. At least the user is warned that the installer is still experimental.
Knoppix was not able to install X correctly. I guess it couldn’t detect my video controller, or my monitor. Mandrake 9.0 detected and installed everything just fine.
Debian based may have advantages over Mandrake, but certainly not the install.
Funny that everything is in german, considering it’s a german distribution. It could help to download the english version, don’t you think 😉
Else i agree, Knoppix is not primarily made to be installed to HD. And about the X setup, write to Mr. Knopper. I found him very helpful and interested in problems concerning the hardware detection. Use [email protected]
If you are seeking general support and want to read the FAQ first, i would advise you to use the http://www.knoppix.net website for contact. It’s for english speaking users.