The KDE Project released maintainance release KDE 3.1.2. Announcement, information, changelog.
KDE 3.1.2 Released
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I wonder if Konq is usable yet, speed- and stability-wise?
Err, yes. It’s been very usable for a long time now.
I last used Konqueror browser on Mandrake 8.1 ( KDE 2.2.1 )in Oct 2001 – it was certainly very usable back then
Yes, these guys are right, Konq has been fast (to load and use) and much more stable since 3.1.
it needs improvements to the tabbed browsing component, and it also needs a “home” button for your WEB HOME PAGE. It sucks clicking the home icon and having it jump into your home directory…..and if you change it, when you’re using it as a file manager it brings up your web home page….hassle. but it has made great strides recently.
You can open a web-page and do a save profile as. Just load that profile and it will start with the page as home page.
Tell me which other browser offers multiple web -pages. No. Mozilla multitab bookmark are not what I am talking about
Shridhar
Note that 3.1.2 is just a bugfix release, not a feature release. In HEAD, Konqueror’s tabbed browsing is already much improved, as is its HTML rendering (lots of Safari merges) and it even gained Mozilla/Netscape sidebar support. With KDE 3.2, Konqueror will be one of the finest web browsers around.
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it needs improvements to the tabbed browsing component, and it also needs a “home” button for your WEB HOME PAGE. It sucks clicking the home icon and having it jump into your home directory…..and if you change it, when you’re using it as a file manager it brings up your web home page….hassle. but it has made great strides recently.
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That is why it would be nice if they split the file manager and the browser into seperate apps. Well that is my personal view and what I would prefer.
Don’t quote me on this, but I think they are planning something similar to what I just mentioned with konq embedded.
http://konqueror.org/embedded/
with Konqueror’s tab support are gone in this version.. especially no more window clear on new tab, etc..
> Tell me which other browser offers multiple web -pages.
Opera? File/Sessions/Save Session.
pj
> Tell me which other browser offers multiple web -pages.
Opera? File/Sessions/Save Session.
I bet that can not save split panels with a remote SMB connections in one, http web page in another and local folder in third.
I know I am comparing apples to oranges but couldn’t help..:-)
Opera is fine browser but little to offer over konqueror, especially if you have attitude like me.. Dunk the site if it doesn’t work with konqueror.. same goes for java and javascript..:-)
Shridhar
I bet that can not save split panels with a remote SMB connections in one, http web page in another and local folder in third.
All of that and more actually, especially now the linux version is in sync with the windows one.
While I am of the ‘Konq should stick to local file browsing’ mindset, I do believe it is a usable tool. I’d much rather use Opera or Firebird any day however.
Konq doing all ‘explorer’ type things is very much the MS way of IE doing everything…and we all know what security ‘features’ that has brought to Windows. I’ll stick to having file browsers for file browsing and web browsers for web browsing thanks
Konqueror is just a thin shell over all the features of the KDE libraries. For example, transparent access to smb, ftp, http, file, ssh, etc, protocols is just a side-effect of using KIO. Every KDE application, not just Konqueror, can automagically access all these protocols. Further, all the embedding stuff that Konqueror does it just a shell over the KParts mechanism. Any KDE application can do the same embedding stuff with just a few lines of code. The difference between Internet Explorer and Konqueror is one of architecture. IE is bloated and full of security flaws because it is monolithic. Meanwhile, Konqueror is properly layered and properly abstracted. The protocols are all orthogonal to the applications, and so are the embeddable parts. This makes things much easier when it comes to keeping things streamlined and secure.
ie is also heavily component based, it is far from monolithic. microsoft is big about using COM you know
Announced on 5/19 in the AM, ready for upgrade 5/19 in the AM. Man those Gentoo guys are fast!
It is great indeed that Konqueror uses the parts technology – when I click a pdf in the browser it uses the same window, if I click a word document it opens with an embedded kword.
However, I agree on the home button. Maybe make it belong to the http/file view kparts? Though I never use the home button, I either click a favorite or click the Home button in the kicker.
Sounds to me like KDE is just an MS windows clone on a *NIX kernel.
I suppose imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
I used to KDE version 2 as I never liked GNOME 1.x. Since having Linux as my main OS I have used GNOME2.2 ever since it came out. It feels much better. I use the GNOME2.2 apps but use various WM’s without using the gnome-panel. I get all the functionality of the GNOME apps, with the speed and elegance of my chosen WM (XFCE4 is my current love, but it’ll change again in the future no doubt). KDE just seems nasty to me. I’m sure it’s technically a great piece of engineering, but GNOME2.2 & GTK2 have everything I need and are faster on my hardware.
It is not a windows clone. Actually, MDMA, I have configured it to behave just like AmigaOS 4/5 should behave. And Konq is a great browser, and is not a shell like Explorer. It is a set of classes that all apps can use, in the way KDE is deviced. PixiePlus uses the KHTML classes to show HTML for example.
But the point is, KDE is created in a fashion so that it can achieve consistency. Web browsing being the activity 80% of users with an internet connection do, integrating shouldn’t be alarming. And KDE is not Linux, it is an environment, unlike Windows, which is an OS.
From a regular users perspective they are one in the same thing. Anyway KDE is synonomous with Windows in the sense that they both offer a set of API’s to create 3rd apps for the environment.
KDE is great because it makes reusing the base code easy. Therefore a high degree of consistency, integreation, but maintaining code that is easy to manage.
> Opera is fine browser but little to offer over konqueror.
Opera has mouse gestures, which I can no longer live without. And it runs on Linux and Windows (and many other platforms), which is a big plus since I run Linux at home and Windows at work.
Konqueror does well what it intends to do (read ‘Re: JCopper’ by Rayiner), but it’s not the end-all browser (yet, of course
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Here is a beta of kde3.1.1 for cygwin:
<http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=273156>
You can even use the new rootless mode of the cygwin X server to have kde on top of your windows desktop. Konqueror and Visual Studio.NET side by side 🙂
Its about time they fixed those tab bugs =) I can’t wait for 3.2, I hope they clean up the UI and dialogs a lot like in GNoME 2.4, than KDE will be the undisputable heavy weight champion…. for linux
BTW: Opera 7.11 was released for both linux and Windows just now.
>I have configured it to behave just like AmigaOS 4/5 should behave.
Erm… Forgive me for not being psychic, but how do OS4 and the mythical OS5 behave then? 😉
>It is a set of classes that all apps can use, in the way KDE is deviced. PixiePlus uses the KHTML classes to show HTML for example.
Sound’s just like COM to me. (I am a windows developer by day, and a Linux user by night)
It takes all the ideas of MS and re-implements them as far as I can see. I’m not saying this is bad, just that I prefer something else.
Does anybody know if RedHat will also release rpm’s for RedHat 8 or just for RedHat 9 only ?
Actually mouse gestures are possible in KDE (system wide even) since the KDE 2.x days ( http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/xwin/xmouse2.html ), sadly nobody cared to give it a centralized interface making KGesture actually accessible for normal users ( http://www.slac.com/~mpilone/projects/kgesture.phtml ).
For KDE 3.2 It has been picked up ( http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-3.2-features.html ) as a part of the included KHotKeys ( http://dforce.sh.cvut.cz/~seli/en/khotkeys/ ).