A few days ago an Amiga event took place in Empoli, Italy. Here are reports of it (1, 2) and also pictures of the event (1, 2, 3, 4, 5). In the event there was also a MorphOS show and a YellowTAB Zeta one.
Reports and Images from Pianeta Amiga 2003 Event
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Some people sadly misunderstood what was being demonstrated for the first time at the Pianeta fair, so here is some additional information from the AmigaOS4 developers:
http://www.amigart.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1904
http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=875
The milestones were:
– AmigaOS4 demonstrated booting on AmigaOne for the first time.
– Petunia JIT emulator integrated. This JIT engine will solely be used for running classic Amiga software and not OS components.
The AmigaOS4 version demonstrated at Pianeta still had its graphics system running an *interpreted* 68k version. This will soon be replaced with the PPC native version. For a speed comparison between JIT emulation, interpretation and PPC native code here is some information provided by Gerald Carda of bPlan (at the time in 2001).
The results:
Interpreted emulation: 4 FPS
JIT version: 49 FPS (12 times faster)
PPC native version: 195 FPS (49 times faster)
Is OSNews going to review the new version (RC1)?
I want to know more. Did the AOS4 guys let people play around with the AmigaOS 4? If so then how was it?
@ Ronald
> I want to know more. Did the AOS4 guys let people play
> around with the AmigaOS 4? If so then how was it?
I have personally played around with a beta of AmigaOS4 for the Cyberstorm PPC.
My report from an AmigaOS4 on Tour event in Switzerland (21 June) can be read here:
http://amigaworld.net/modules/features/index.php?op=r&cat_id=1&rev_…
Videos of the AmigaOS4 alpha on the AmigaOne can be found at the AmigaWorld.net link above within my prior posting.
> I want to know more. Did the AOS4 guys let people play
> around with the AmigaOS 4? If so then how was it?
Yes, they did, and it was _very_ slow gfx-wise. The reason for its sloweness have mainly to be researched in the fact it had no native gfx subsystem running at the moment, so I’d wait for them to show the version they intend to sell (or close to that one) before making any judgements.
@Mike
I see you always make the 1st “clarification” post on any Amiga-related news… wonder why there’s always something to clarify…
Here’s a report by Andrea Maniero, who attended the Pianeta Amiga show in Italy, worth a read:
http://www.ann.lu/detail.cgi?category=news&file=1064267916.msg
@Mike Bouma
There is one thing that is bothering me about AmigaOS 4. And that is file sharing capabilities. Is Samba/CIFS gonna be included?
Also any news on the AmigaOne Lite?
@ Ronald
> Is Samba/CIFS gonna be included?
Olaf Barthel a key AmigaOS4 developer and key member of the Amiga Samba team. And a version compatible with AmigaOS4 will probably be included in the AmigaOS4 contributions drawer.
http://amigaworld.net/modules/fleecymoss/index.php?cat_id=10#86
> Also any news on the AmigaOne Lite?
Features, target release date, etc:
http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=866
@ Fabio
> I see you always make the 1st “clarification” post on
> any Amiga-related news… wonder why there’s always
> something to clarify…
I always prefer to provide as much technical data as possible, instead of providing less. IMO these reports lack much background information to enable readers to get a proper view on the current state of AmigaOS4.
If you don’t understand that what was shown on the AmigaOne was only running for less than a week, then people may come to the wrong conclusions of the final product. The Cyberstorm version still has the priority though.
>The AmigaOS4 version demonstrated at Pianeta still had its
>graphics system running an *interpreted* 68k version. This will
>soon be replaced with the PPC native version. For a speed
>comparison between JIT emulation, interpretation and PPC native
>code here is some information provided by Gerald Carda of
>bPlan (at the time in 2001).
>
>The results:
>Interpreted emulation: 4 FPS
>JIT version: 49 FPS (12 times faster)
>PPC native version: 195 FPS (49 times faster)
Here’s more up to date results, the CPU is running 50% (or more) faster hence the higher native score (the rest of the system is the same) but the interpreter and JIT have improved quite a bit in that time. I don’t know what the difference will be between the values in OS4s case but suffice to say native is faster than emulation.
Interpreted: 8 FPS
JIT: 89 FPS
Native: 254 FPS
Pictures of empty tables, Harmon Kardon Mac-styled subwoofers and speakers, and old Macintosh computers.
Not really a lot of uplifting imagery for an Amiga show, to be honest.
May I ask why you not only use a competitive product’s “benchmarks” as reference, but additionally outdated ones?
They give your target audience no indication whatsoever of the product’s current or future speed .. it’s somewhat like saying “Our product A will be blazing fast because product B already is, and we can’t possibly perform worse!”…
– CISC