http://www.osnews.com/story/10017/Poll_Do_you_use_a_64bit_CPU_in_your_main_computer_ Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:08:51 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif http://www.osnews.com http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? No, not in my main system
I have an SGI Octane (64-bit R10k @ 195mhz) that I'm trying to get rid of in order to get some money to buy an AMD64 system.
A faster MIPS box along with a SPARC, Alpha and PPC (all 64 bit) is still just a dream for me unfortunatly
Incidently, if anyone wants an Octane (and a 20" monitor if you need) it's a 195mhz/384Mb/18Gb 7,200rpm (36Gb 10,000rpm optional extra) and I'm in the UK Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? AMD64: It's got power, doesn't drain the local nuclear plant and it's quiet. This provides a really nice working environnement.
Not using a 64bit OS yet. I need Windows for some apps and I don't see any advantages in running Linux 64bit on a desktop (no 3D work, etc.). Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? What good would that do? Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I have an Athlon64 laptop which I've thrashed about a number of x86-64 Linux distros and pre-release WinXP editions, all of which seem to be lesser cousins to their 32-bit counterparts, esp in terms of drivers (prism54, anyone?). I want to settle on a reliable OS before I commit to replacing an aging P4 workstation with (hopefully) some nice dual-Opteron gear. But will the OS options leave me feeling cold?

I hope not because I want to move in the right direction, looking forward (I've had a 64-bit SPARC for donkey's years) and can do without a Flash plugin for a number of months. But how long until marginal becomes mainstream? I wonder. Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I use an AMD64, and I try to run Fedora Core x86_64 on it, but recently I've been having problems. So currently I'm on WinXP Pro. Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Love the AMD 64 proc, got it running on my system now. I don't really know why I purchased a 64-bit processor, since right now you can't really take advantage of full 64-bit support on Windows.

But hey, the 3000+ AMD 64 for 130 bucks and overclocking it to a 2.2 GHz with stock cooling - you just can't beat that!

Hopefully Windows XP 64 Edition will come out in April, like they say. Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Well, it is nifty, but not a big deal without a 64bit OS (couldn't get FC3 64 to load) or 64 bit apps to run on it. I should have bought a Mac. Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Definately has power to burn. "Cool n Quiet" powersaving is a nice touch too.

Mine is running gentoo 2004.3 amd64. Everything is native 64bit bar Firefox (needed flash player) and OOorg (didn't have the disk space to compile it at the time).

UT2004's native 64 bit binary works like a charm, nVidia provides 64 bit video drivers too. For the moments when I really need to run windows, I still have it installed. Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? What about my GameCube?! Does that count? :-D Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? If you can browse osnews with it, then yes. Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:24:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I think the technology isnt far enough to really be used. There is only a tiny fragment of hardware thats based on 64 bit. The Software side is a little better, especially Linux, Windows is far behind (as always), but still not worth the troubles. The next system I'll buy will be a 64, but that's at least 2 years to come.

Currently running an Intel Celeron 1,5 GHz Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:25:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I have a 3200 AMD64 notebook.
It makes all the other machines I use seem so slow

Go AMD Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? No, but I think my Nintendo 64 does. Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:27:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I have an AMD64. I've tried several 64-bit OSes, XP64 Beta, Longhorn Alpha, and several Linux distros, but none have been good enough to use full time. I'm waiting for XP64 Final. Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:28:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Running gentoo/ amd64 2005.1 on a dual Opteron - the fastest system I've ever seen, and gentoo did a great job. I'm pretty confident that gentoo is the best 64bit OS currently...

BTW, Anonymous (IP: ---.urbanet.ch): I'm also into 3D, and have Softimage|XSI running on my box - also tried Pro/E, Maya and Houdini, everything worked just fine and really fast on 64bit Linux. Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:28:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? AMD64 3000+, Cool n Quiet turned off (when it is on CPU runs at a half of a speed and OC is impossible by the way)
SuSE 9.2 64-bit.

32-bit apps:
Firefox (reason as in the post above -> no flash and no java plugin) plus OO.org 2.0 beta. Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:31:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Yup, I have a nice 64bit UltraSPARC IIi running at 270Mhz-- it runs Solaris9 with Xfce4/CDE.

Really cool machine. Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:31:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? AMD64 3500+
Mulitboot, mainly between XP Media Center Edition 2005 and XP/Server 2003 x64 Edition Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:32:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Using an Athlon64 3200+, but running Windows 2000 primarily. Have FC3/x86_64 installed also, and use it for 64-bit-cleanness tests of the C and C++ code I write.

In the past I really enjoyed Mandrake, but they lost me as a user when they closed off the x86_64 version from free download. Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I now run Windows on my amd64. I have tried several versions of Linux (Gentoo being the best for amd64 IMHO) but it can be far too much hassle. At the end of the day I just need to get work done. I think things will settle down further when MS release XP64. Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Yeah!http://www.gc-linux.org/ Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:34:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? the next time I feel the urge to upgrade. Kind of waiting for a killer 64 bit only game though. Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:35:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Running Gentoo atm and its been working great. Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I'm running a 64bit linux-system on gentoo and i'm really impressed.
go64! Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I upgraded from a dual p2-300mhz to a nice shiny p4-3ghz just two week ago. I was considering going to 64Bit, but decided the price wasn't worth the extra, this machine is going to last me for a fair few years to come now. I have the software I need and I don't update to the latest and greatest stuff because most of the time its the latest and greatest junk.

If it wasn't for my dual's motherboard dropping dead, i would have still been using it now.
Hopfully the 64bit buzz will actually let people do more then they can now, I just see extra bloat in applications because they can without making real funcationality from the 64bit chips. Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? My SUN Ultra 2 is not exactly quiet nor is it fast, but its fine for normal stuff I do like browsing, typesetting, etc.
Im running Solaris 9 64bit on this dual-cpu box together with pkgsrc (the netbsd package system) and it works perfectly. Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I have an Athlon 3500+ with FreeBSD 5.3-amd64 running on it. Awesome chip, and some things (eg, oggenc) get a huge speedboost from running in 64bit mode.

Only problem is that it's lacking some 32bit-only niceties, like the nvidia drivers. Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:47:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? i will build my own x86_64 box in about another year, i want to make sure the software side is caught up with the hardware side before i make the switch, then once all it said and done i will donate this computer to a worthy cause like a school or non-profit org Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:47:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I haven't even broken the 1 GHz barrier. My main computer is still an Athlon 700 MHz (but overclocked to 850 MHz). Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:47:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? And I use 64 bit Linux, since the post asked to follow up. Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:48:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I run a pair of Opteron 846's in a Tyan board designed for the 200 series. At the time I built the machine I found a source of 846's that was cheaper than purchasing 246's on eBay, so that's what I ended up with ! I run SATA drives, which weren't supported properly under Linux at the time of construction, and forced me to run Windows XP as my main OS (previously Linux). So now all my Linux/*BSD/other distros run under MS Virtual PC. I hope one day to move to a proper 64-bit OS but am not in any rush at the moment. Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? If you don't have more than a couple gigabytes of virtual memory (RAM + swap) in your computer, then it doesn't do much of anything for you, in general. However, in the case of Opteron/Athlon 64, AMD actually made the x86 architecture less broken and, in that case, 64-bit mode can actually give you a speed boost (not due to 64-bitness but due to less-broken-x86-kludged-ness).

On other less-broken architectures, like SPARC, moving to 64-bit is really only for the memory capacity, not speed (64-bit on a good architecture can actually be _slower_ than 32-bit by a little).

So: AMD64 = more memory capacity + more speed
Others = more memory capacity + speed about the same Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:58:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? im running full 64bit gentoo which is almost impossible to tell the difference to a 32bit install, its that complete.

lets be honest unless you are are buying a laptop you pretty much have to be a moron to not buy an amd64 these days, given the recent dual core benchmarks intel is in serious trouble for at least another 18 months. Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:58:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Actually, I got my AMD64 yesterday and now I sit here with a fresh Fedora install! My first 64bit machine!

On this system I've bought a hd-rack thing so I can easily change harddisk. I want to test Solaris 10, and some other OS:es as well but I really hate fiddling with multiboot crap.

I thought I made a good deal buying the cheapest case in the store. The cpu peaks at ~30W (3G2 90nm Winchester core) and the gfx is passively cooled (ati 9200SE) but the cpu and case/psu fans sound like a bloody vacuum cleaner! Isn't that irony..

I failed to find lm_sensor option to reduce rpm on fans (the cpu is ~30 deg C) but failed, so I had to fall back to solder resistors on the fans but I only had one suitable at home.. Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? It's interesting to see in the poll that actually no one is running with intels 64 bit stuff. AMD and IBM are really ahead with the 64 bit story. Probably also because AMD and IBM don't use emulation to run older 32 bit software. Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? running ubuntu x86 on a amd64 3000+. forgot to make sure my wireless was supported in the kernel.... ARGHH! so i need to do ndiswrapper on a 32bit driver. don't think you can do that on the 64 bit kernel. i also play warcraft 3 in cedega. everything else would be fine though. not that i need to address that much ram or harddrive space though, so a switch to 64 bit is not needed anytime soon. but when i want to i can make the switch. Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? No, maybe next time.

I couldn't find a 64 bit intel or AMD board without onboard/integrated components. I couldn't find a PCI-Express board without that junk either.

So for now I'm sticking with an Intel i875P with a Pentium 4.

-Bob Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? and it rocks Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? but won't have it for another four weeks.

SUSE9.3/Win64 here we come! Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:11:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? running windows x64 edition v1433. nice but my digital camera software doesnt run on 64 bit yet.

i wish slackware and dropline had 64 bit editions. Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:15:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I recently switched my desktop computer from i386 to alpha. A truely wonderful computer. Running NetBSD I have all the neccessary applications I need. 600MHz which is fast enough to play fullscreen divx episodes of my favourite tv series. I am about to put SCSI in it and buy a 19" TFT making it into a really great computer suitable for learning more about "stuff that really matters", namely programming and NetBSD! :-)

If you have the latest i386 gear, 4 GHz sweet lightning fast computer, huge IDE disk, but STILL get bored while using it.. Perhaps it is time for you to switch to something more exotic? I finally got the chance to do it and.. wow.. Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:17:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? My PC has 64 MBs of RAM, does that count? :-s Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? i wont until i can afford the uppgrade from my dual mp 2400+
to dual opteron. a dual rig is the only way tu surf Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? "In the past I really enjoyed Mandrake, but they lost me as a user when they closed off the x86_64 version from free download."

Well, then you lost yourself, because they never did any such thing. The X86-64 is still available for free download. Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? The bigest problem with 64bit systems right now is the simple lack of real 64 bit apps.

People always point to 64bit linux to show that there is no speed increese, but the problem is that you simply can't take an app made for 32bit and compile it for 64 bits and expect to see a speed increese. Just as taking a 16 bit win 3.1 app and compiling it for 32bits isn't going to make the program run any faster.

Ware 64 bits is going to shine is things that are very cpu heavy such as video encoding and games, but again the program has to be written to take advantage of the cpu Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I have a "mini-cluster" with 1 athlon 64 fx-51 running the arch x86_64 and 3 athlon 64 3000+s using msi u-atx boards (thats y i call it the mini-cluster ;-p) being netbooted from it. I use it for updating the arch packages and other stuff. Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:27:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Ultra 10 440 and Solaris 9 Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Not going the 64bit path for a little while. Wait till I can afford to update my system to dually AMD64 from it's current Dual AMD MP. Am looking forward to a quieter system and faster overall responsiveness but also I want to let the newly implemented technology get sorted befor jumping. Maybe the end of the year or next year. Lots of life left in my current rig. Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Sun Ultra2 Elite3D (yup, those existed as a stock config, but never showed up on Sun's System Handbook), with every little gizmo I could stuff in (like the SBUS-to-PCMCIA bridge ).

2 x 300 MHz, 1280 MB RAM, Solaris 10. Runs Just Fine (tm). Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:41:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? So if I have understood the benefits with 64bit correctly it mostly comes down to pointers beeing twice the size of 32bit pointers.

Now if they are twice the size, wouldn't they use twice the bandwith on the busses, and twice the size in memory and on disks? This all sounds as a great way to half my systems performance... Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:46:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? My old system had gone a little "elderly", so I pushed into to some distant family and replaced it - and x86 64bit support was a strict requirement for the next one. So far so good, and it's still running fine and fast in 32bit mode.

The point is that I do have some uses for all the usual uses, like 64bit memory mapped files (genomic databases, video editing), more general registers (virtual machines creation), and more physical ram than /3GB. But at the moment I can live with 32bit. However, I do know that MY computer will have multiple gigabytes of ram in less than a year from now.

Really however, all computers will have multiple gigabytes of physical ram in the next two years, and I do intend to switch ALL computers in the neighbourhood at once to 64bit to limit the maintenance (you know, neighbours pay with a smile). That's why ANY replacement within my reach will require 64bit support - or else... I have a good reason to drop that system from my list in the near future. Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? well yes you are correct and thats why amd64 can handel 32bit pointers. but when your doing mat with large numbers you can do it in fewer operations with 64bit pointers. then there is the register issue where they have added more registers in the
amd64 spec more register is always good. Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? LOL!
Since this doesn't happen, perhaps you should renew your research efforts...;-) Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? When I upgraded my computer from an iMac to an eMac, I was skeptical about whether the amount I was to spend on it could be justified - compared to the G4, the PowerPC 970 is a world apart from the G4 - that coupled with gigs of memory (yeah, I tend to go nuts when I upgrade the memory), it is a great little pocket-rocket.

I think the biggest improvement won't necessarily be from the actualy 64bitness, but the architectural and design improvements - in the case of AMD64 (unlike Intel), consumers will see the benefit of the on-die memory controller, which should reduce memory latacy, more registers as to allow greater crunching of numbers when it comes to things like encoding and compression (assuming that they CODEC's/software are tuned).

It will be interesting, however, to see where AMD will go in the next few years - if SUN got their act together, canned their SPARC workstation range, replaced it with and end to end product range, from workstation with Opteron down to Athlon on the low cost desktop, they would make a great killing in the market. Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Not running an 64bit OS (yet). Planning on using a Linux distribution. Possibly Slackware. Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Well, I got my G5 fairly cheap at the college where I work, otherwise it would have been hard to convince the wife that I *need* a G5. I am thinking of ditching my p4 based SFF pc for a SFF athlon64, but the only reason I use the PC is to play enemy territory. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 00:11:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Home:
G5 1.8Ghz, 768MB Ram, 380GB Disk

Work:
iStar 2-way 600mhz, 12GB Ram, 280GB Disk
POWER4 3-way 1.2Ghz, 16GB Ram, 1.3TB Disk

Were thinking of drop the iStar and getting a 5-way POWER5 with 24GB Ram and 3TB disk. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 00:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? What is the equivalent AMD64 from Intel? Fri, 18 Mar 2005 00:27:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? my new notebook is an .... amd64 3400+, and I've installed FC3 x86_64, it seems really good on this powerfull hardware.

I wait only the wireless driver to full support, all the rest is perfectly supported.

I personally think that is a great machine! very fast and stable.

tips: if you live in alaska or in siberia is also usefull to warm up your room... Fri, 18 Mar 2005 00:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? in pure 64bit flavor, since autum 2004 Fri, 18 Mar 2005 00:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? my main server machine at home is an HP9000 64 bit machine, 1GB ram, fiber channel disk and of course 64 bit hpux 11.

VXVM filesystem too. Cool stuff Fri, 18 Mar 2005 00:46:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? After a couple of years of using a dual PIII at home, and a P4 with hyperthreading at the office, I was completely blown away by the raw power of this thing. I'm gonna get me a Dual Opteron next! Fri, 18 Mar 2005 00:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I have an amd64 i use 64bit windows and 32bit linux, but I dont spend much time in windows. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:03:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? But I have a Sun Ultra 5 workstation with an Ultrasparc IIi running Gentoo. My main machine is a Mac though. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:05:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? i'd rather have that x86 instruction set dropped, it's a design which made sense in the beginning of the '80, not nowadays. when the os needs to be recompiled for 64bit, you might as wel fix the instructionset (and end up with a ppc )

it's not a bad thing to remove the real mode support, we do not have the intention to run windows 3.11 on our amd64 boxes. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Main box runs a mix of FC3/Rawhide amd64
server box runs CentOS 4 amd64
sun blade 100 running Sol10 Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? My main computer is now an Athlon64 laptop, running 64 bit Ubuntu. It's great for porting scientific applications.

Michael Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? i just upgraded my pc from a p4 2.4ghz to AMD64 3500+ 2.2ghz and it really delivers performance but not stability. im running winxp pro sp2 and my games lock up and so do my apps like cdex and itunes when ripping music. so far its been a terrible experience. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Especially with my custom 2.6.11 kernel Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I have an Athlon 64 3200+ in my laptop, and run Ubuntu 5.04 Preview on it. Previously used 32bit distro, but now ATI have released 64bit Radeon drivers and Broadcom Windows 64bit driver can be used with NDISWrapper, I have gone completely 64bit. There is a noticeable speed increase from the 32bit distro on the same hardware. Probably due to all those extra registers I would imagine. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I have a Dell PowerEdge at my office that I remotely access from home as well via NX client. At work we also use thin clients running NX client and I can barely tell the diff between local network and remote access.

The specs:

Dual Xeon 3.2GHz
5 SCSI RAID-5 10k 73GB HDDs
2GB RAM
Dual Gigabit Ethernet
Dual Redundant Powersupply
Tape Backup unit

There is barely a load on the CPUs with over two dozen simultaneous users doing the usual sorts of stuff- web surfing, email, open office apps, and a few custom apps. It's also running MySQL, Apache, Squid, DHCP, LDAP, Postfix, CUPS, vsFTP, SSH and the NX server. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:21:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? runs perfect Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Gentoo for the OS. It's wicked fast for crypto and compiling code. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:28:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? But I'm considering replacing it with the i386 version, because I'm having problems with some software, like mono and Win32codecs... Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:31:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I've got a AMD Athlon 64 Mobility in my laptop, which is my main computer. I'm not running a 64bit OS, I will be next month when Windows XP Professional x64 is released. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Not really my main machine, but I have a 360MHz Ultra 5 that runs Solaris 9. Fans are a bit noisy but it is fine for the web, email and OpenOffice. It also has an AMD 400MHz PCI card installed running Win 2000. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? my main server machine at home is an HP9000 64 bit machine

hmmmm... lemme think about that.... didn't get it..douh! Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:52:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Forgot to mention I run Solaris 9 sparcv9... Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? "What is the equivalent AMD64 from Intel?"

Intel Pentium 4 with Extended Memory Technology. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? 3200 Athlon64 Laptop.

Very nice system currently running Ubuntu 64b, Mandrake 32b and XP Pro 32b. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 02:04:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I run Solaris 8 on Sparc64 hardware. It's my main computer at work (while I use OpenBSD/x86 at home).

This is very valuable machine to test and find bugs in my (and other's) code because it assumes the exacts oposites from x86 (little indian, 64bits) and is very strict on alignment issues.

Using solaris (rather than linux or *bsd) on this helps to remove most gnucisms/linuxisms from the code (well, those that pass over my tests on OpenBSD).

I just miss the native sun compiler (just too expensive ). And a solaris/sparc64 valgrind or purify would be the final touch ! Fri, 18 Mar 2005 02:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? i've had my eye on a few amd64 laptops but the sound software i run will NOT run on anything 64 and it seems to be a common fault with XP on 64, but once XP64 comes out i may just have to go grab me a AMD64 laptop to play with, by then the sound issuse may have been fixed if not i'll play games on it till my fingers fall off [sVen] Fri, 18 Mar 2005 02:12:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? It is sorta' my main machine... running MythTV on it (it's in the basement), 380 gig of storage, plus it runs LTSP for the two thin clients I have in the house. Am happy to say I have my wife using it, started with XFCE, now she's using Gnome. 4-year old loves tuxpaint, but gets frustrated with Frozen Bubble. As for running a 64-bit OS, I dont' need that yet, but wanted that option in a year or so. I'm in no hurry, this machine is way overkill for what I'm using it for (but cool, it transcodes an hour-long MPEG-2 file to MPEG-4 in less than 40 minutes). Fri, 18 Mar 2005 02:15:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Just built a 64 bit system for my birthday, i actually went down .4 Ghz (the new chip runs at 1.8) and it is a power of 10 faster than my old 2.2 Ghz celeron. Gentoo on x86_64 is great, i play trigger and cube. They both run really well with the nvidia-drivers. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 02:28:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I'm running FreeBSD 5.3 on a amd64 box. Overal it runs great, not hardware problems. The only things lagging is a native build of Java (running the linux binary JDK from the ports under Linux emulation), and openoffice, which currently does not build on amd64, but that should change very soon. Instead, I'm running a beta of OO2.0-beta also under emulation.

Though not as problem free as using a 32bit proc, it's certainly not far off. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 02:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I'm running FreeBSD 5.3 on a amd64 box. Overall it runs great, no hardware problems. The only thing missing right now is openoffice, which currently does not build on amd64, but that should change very soon. Instead, I'm running a beta of OO2.0-beta also under emulation.

I also have problems with the enigmail plugin for Thunderbird (built from ports), but I'm not 100% sure if that is due to my arch.

Though not as problem free as using a 32bit proc, it's certainly not far off. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 02:41:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Got my dual G5 for Xmas. Put dual monitors on it. Love it. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 02:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I've got an Athlon64 3000+ and run Gentoo/AMD64 alongside Windows XP. Ogg Vorbis encoding sure is lightning quick in Gentoo/AMD64. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 02:48:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? AMD and Debian GNU/Linux running perfectly. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 02:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? 1-Sun Ultra 2 with Dual USPARC II 300mhz 1GB Mem Solaris 9
1-Sun Ultra 5 USPARC IIi 333mhz 512MB Mem Solaris 9
1-Sun Ultra 10 USPARC IIi 440mhz 1GB Mem Solaris 10

Solaris 10 box (U10) is my normal "workstation", others are "sandboxes" for dev and testing. No problems. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 02:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? AMD64 3000+ on a MSI K8T-Neo FSR with 512 MB. Running W2K on one disk, and SuSE 9.1, 32 Bit version.(with some upgrades) on the other.

Use to have an Athlon with the hoover attachment until the MB died. I like this one much better because it's so much quieter, and doesn't get as hot (my HDs appreciate that).

Maybe latter I'll add more memory (3 Gb on this board), and some SATAs with a better warrenty than one year. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Got 2 350Mhz UltraSPARC III, running Solaris 8 IIRC. Far from my first machine though, but it is a 64 bit OS... Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Running a 32 bit OS as my main OS though I've tried some 64 bit ones, but it's hard to get some things going (like 32 bit real player, for example).

I run Ubuntu Hoary AMD64 on a separate test partition, and so far that is going really great. I just need to work out how to get 32 bit firefox running on there so I can have the flash plugin.

My main browser is opera, which doesn't have a 64 bit version - I hope I can get it to work in Ubuntu. That and a few other niggling things I have to get to work before I can switch to Ubuntu 64bit fulltime.

I downloaded a beta of winXP 64 bit, but never bothered installing it. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:11:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Hardware: yes, a dual G5 Powermac. OS: nope, not yet. Waiting on Tiger. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Dual G5 here. and as per someone else above, I am waiting for Tiger before I have a fully 64bit OS. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:27:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? My home machine is an AMD 64 3500 running x86_64 SuSE 9.2.

Very fast and stable. Runs UT, Doom 3, etc. under SuSE without issue.

Way faster than my same priced Intel P4 3.2 Prescott. I don't know why anyone would buy Intel these days. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:28:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? AMD64 3500: Currently running Debian Sarge 32 bit and occasionally windows 32 for games. I've run both Windows and Linux 64 bit but missed too many of the 32 bit apps. Except for the windows gaming I don't realize any big gains. I've gotta say that the Quiet 'N Cool is a real plus. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:35:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? AMD64 3000+, 1Gig ram, running Gentoo Linux.
I wish I had another just like it ;-) Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:44:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Eugenia,

A "what 64 bit distro" are you running would be interesting

Fedora
CentOS
Ubuntu
Debian
Suse
Mandrake
Gentoo
Tiger (when its out, and you should have a mac)
FreeBSD
NetBSD
OpenBSD
Solaris
HP-UX
SGI
AIX
windows

Of course if you throw in "home desktop" some of these will be tossed out. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? i'm running a 3200+ with pure 64bit gentoo and the 64bit developers relese of winxp (its free, poke around microsoft.com).

defintely runs cooler than any system i've ever used, and its damn fast too. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:58:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? AMD 64 2800, Win XP-64 and Gentoo 64 bit dual boot. I have benched it dead even against a 3 gig P4 running Win XP-32. That is pretty good for a 1.8 Ghz machine. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 04:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? My main is a gentoo amd64 box. Definitely a sweet workstation. Gotta dually Octane SGI mips box too running Irix for a legacy app or two as well. The amd64 is a great workstation proc. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 04:24:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I'm using an AMD Athlon 64. I run Fedora Core 3 x86_64. It runs great. Very few problems to report and the speed is awesome! Fri, 18 Mar 2005 04:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Gateway AMD64 3400+ Laptop running Ubuntu Hoary for amd64. Switch to Debian a year ago and haven't been as happy with any other linux distro. Had Suse Pro 9.2 x86_64 on it to start with, Ubuntu runs a lot better (even in preview).

Missing a couple minor applications, not ready for the 64 bit world. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 05:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Gentoo 2004.3 (2005.0 doesn't support pure-64-bit) Fri, 18 Mar 2005 05:42:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Power hungary, severe heat producing Dual Opteron 244 running Gentoo64 with emul libs to run Firefox and Openoffice and Vmware. UT2004-64 runs nice too.

How many 32bit apps? 3. How many? 3. What about 64bit apps? Hundreds of them. Thousands. "Gee, I think I'll wait for the software to catch up to the hardware duhhhh" Get stuffed.

I see it this way, running 64bit Linux allows me to file bug reports to help the devs fix their software. 64bit linux apps do not need major work if they were designed correctly in the first place. The Windows world does not have this luxury. How many windows 3rd party drivers have to rewritten from scratch? You count 'em. 64bit weather you like it or not will take over despite its advantages/desadvantages. Get into it now and help your community! Fri, 18 Mar 2005 06:05:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? My main machine is a dual G5 Power Mac, and my GFs is the iMac G5 so that's a total of 3 64 bit processors here. Personally couldn't care one way or the other about how many bits they are - I use the hardware for OS X. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 06:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Seems like this is the case with many others, but I bought an AMD64 for the price/performence ratio. The idea of being able to use the 64bit OS's is nifty, but hardly why I bought this thing. I tend to use Win/Lin/Mac on 6month rotations, and lately I have been in more of a Windows mood. I have installed and run 64bit Fedora on this machine, but mainly since I have an ATI graphics card, I have pretty much stuck with standard 32bit Windows XP. Hopefully the 64bit edition will come out soon and work well. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 06:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Main wokrstaion is an AMD64-based one running Windows XP 32-bit and recently also Ubuntu 64-bit. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 06:24:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? And it kicks the s out of other 64 bit OSes and platforms....'nuff said Fri, 18 Mar 2005 06:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I use an AMD64 machince at work for simulations. We are planning to base our entire cluster on this platform. AMD64 rocks Fri, 18 Mar 2005 06:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I'm running a 64 bit (AMD64) FreeBSD system as my main desktop.
Get the Cool'n'Quiet kernel module here:
http://www.spa.is.uec.ac.jp/~nfukuda/software/index.html Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I use the above mentiend machines wit Solaris 10 and Iririx 6.5.2, but not as my main machine. My main machine is a Powermac Dual G4 1.25 running OS-X 10.3.8 which is set to be replaced next year with a Powermac Dual G5. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Hi!
I have a Sun Blade 100, I got for free from a former employer, running Solaris 8. :-) Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? No, still not using a &4-bit CPU, but i'm thinking on getting one, but i'm broke right now.. hehe

http://bitsofnews.com Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:25:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I run CentOS 4.0 (REL4) on a AMD64 3000+ 1024MB DDR ASUS K8N mobo ASUS FX5700 graphics card.Linux runs as smooth as a freshly installed XP install for more than a month now with all the apps i need.Can't express how happy i'm not having to worry about defragmentation,spyware,..Besides windows,only various Linux distributions seem to boot,i hope FreeBSD 5.4 will make a difference in this regard the next round,(multi-boot). Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? UltraSparc IIe blade 100 workstation running Solaris 10.

It serves its purpose quite well Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:58:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I'm currently using Gentoo Linux on my 64bit machine , and it works fine! Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? still missing flash plugin, but i'll never switch back to 32b
my amd64 box is powered by gentoo64. in the past i used to run winxp (yes! games! , but i didn't like too many services thinking for me and now i can say only two words: stability and *SPEED*.
btw you need no longer nuclear power plant for amd Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:31:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I run Fedora 3 x86_64 and it is fine when you get used to it.
Few tips:

1. First of all there are many packages for Fedora - base, freshrpms, livna,dag wieers and others.

2. NVidia are fine(almost no problems), ATI ( http://www.fedorafaq.org/#radeon )- I lost 24 hours until I figured out how to make them work. And then you need two lines in xorg.conf - go to fedora forums. I tried UT2004demo(64bit) on both nvidia and ATI, also Quake3 (32bit) and today I am going to try Heroes III .

3.linux32 - makes the envirnonment look like a x86

4.mozilla-swfdec - a flash player, that worked only once I think , but it is probably better than nothing.

5. It is always fun to make new technology work, don't you think Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:43:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? In work - dual opteron server with WhiteBox 3 x86_64 (RHEL3 clone), at home Amd64 with Fedora Core 3 x86_64 and WindowsXP 64 RC1. Windows is lack of 64bit software and drivers, on Linux I can run about 90% apps natively in 64bit, and rest are 32bit (rar,acrobat,some emulators). Problem with Mono. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:46:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? While I have read about AMD's 64-bit chips and certainly been tempted by that dark side of me that would love to be the first to flaunt having that technology over my peers, one thing stops me: I really have no practical use for it, considering that AMD's current 64-bit models do not support DDR2.

For what I do with my computer, website creation, email, blogging, surfing, and some light office work/printing, I have to seriously question whether a 64-bit CPU is truly necessary.

There are certainly a great number of people who could capitalize on the emerging 64-bit technology, but at this point in time, I am not one of them. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:15:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Sun AMD64 workstation running a 64-bit RHEL clone (White Box) - sweet machine. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:32:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Everything is working as it should. Getting drivers for XP is not easy since it's not out yet. Athlon64 3500+ / 1Gig RAM.

Funny thing is, since I got my Mac mini (3 weeks now!), i've almost not touched the PC... I'm a switcher I guess...?! Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Have an old Alpha, 233Mhz, 512MB RAM, had Debian running on it when I used it, IDE controller flaked out, getting an old scsi hdd from a friend to put it back in service.

Plan on getting an AMD 64 by end of this year, current main is only an Athlon XP 2500+ running at 2204Mhz. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:47:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Currently running Server 2k3 64 bit (Customer Preview Program), on an Athlon 64 3200+ Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Running a 2GHz. dual G5 with Panther and Gentoo Linux. The latter is 64-bit. The Panther install is pretty screwed up (my own fault) so I'm waiting for Tiger to fix things and go fully 64 bit in the areas where it matters. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? At work, I use an Athlon 64 XP as my main computer. Sometimes I'm runing SuSE Linux Enterprise 9 which is primarily 64bit but provides 32bit libs for old programs. Sometimes I'm running Debian which is pretty much 32bit x86 with a 64bit kernel. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:11:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? ... but the system I intend to build in 2006 will definitely be powered by an AMD64, 64bit Linux Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:15:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I was about to buy an amd64, but i wont until all 32 bits x86 proccesors are phased out. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:46:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I've got two 64bit G5s in my main machine, a dual 1.8GHz PowerMac. Not that the extra 32 bits really do me all that much good yet. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? AMD64 3200+ in a homebuilt system. Runs great IMHO, but only been up and going with it for about 3 weeks.

I have WinXP Pro x86_64 Beta for now and it seems rock solid in itself. Admittedly some 32-bit apps don't seem to like it and a couple of drivers object. But it is very reliable so far. I also have a standard WinXP Pro 32-bit for when things object to the 64-bit stuff.

I also have LineOX, Ubuntu and Kubuntu 64bit versions to play with which all loaded successfully and seem OK to date. Couldn't get 64 bit versions of Suse 9.2 or Madrakelinux 10.2 to complete a successful install, but maybe later. Some of this may relate to the SLI MB or the SATA disk rather than the CPU. I have not figured the reason for sure as yet. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:05:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? My main machine has been a Sun Blade 100 since it's easy to setup as a desktop, it's quiet, and it can mirror large IDE drives easily.

My other computer is the Alpha 21264 made by Samsung that's seemingly pretty rare. It's 800 mhz, 4 megs of L2 cache, uses PC2100 DDR-RAM, integrated audio and ethernet, and has an AGP slot. For about a year it was my main computer, and although it was pretty zippy, it was a lot of work to get working. FreeBSD on Alpha isn't nearly as simple as FreeBSD on x86. And the 18 gig SCSI drive was a bit cramped. When I got it 2 years ago, though, it was still decent compared to what else was out there. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Athlon64 3000 cpu
MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R mobo
1GB PC3200 Crucial mem

FreeBSD/amd64 5.4-prerelease
FreeBSD/i386 5.4-prerelease
XP Pro (games Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I have a 64 bit AMD 2800. Runs very, very well.

Currently using XP Pro XP2 but will migrate to the 64 bit edition of XP as soon as it is general release A.K.A Less scary problems.

I took a look around some 64 bit sites and it looks like I can get my drivers all working with my asus board. Forget the serial #

- Microsoft Fanboy

PS) 64 bit linux is pretty sweet too. Tried it on a livecd, I was impressed. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Well I have a AMD 3000+ on a gigabyte MB and It should have a low TCO
2x80gig SATA maxtor's
VIA chipset buggy need new GFX
SIS you rock my world... should of waited 6mnts
Windows XP (current Cool and quiet works on 2k not XP) Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Dual AMD Opteron 246s with FreeBSD 6, AMD64 version.
Great performance! Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:21:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Well, the subject says it all. Although, I plan to be upgrading in the near future and I do want one of 'dem new-fangled Athlon64 thinga-ma-gigies. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? DEC PWS-600au = FreeBSD
SGI Octane = NetBSD
AMD64 3400+ = GoBSD

:) Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I believe that my Dreamcast Hitachi SH4 is a 128-bit processor running Linux. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I don't have a 64bit OS yet. I just built it so I didn't have much time for testing different operating systems. But planning to use Suse 9.2 or 9.3... Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? AMD64 laptop - tried debian 64 but features were missing that I needed - namely wireless.

Currently Gentoo compiled 64bit native with m32 support. I still wanted access to wine, among other programs.

Win64 on the other hand is still useless for me, no drivers at all... Gotta love this linux stuff, it more often just works on new hardware then windows - give or take modems... Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I've got an AMD64 at home and I was lucky enough to have the opportunity to build 6 AMD64 machines where I work.

These are my 64's (from my sig over at hardforum.com):

Home Box: AMD Athlon 64 3500+ 939 90nm || MSI K8N Neo 2 Platinum || 1GB Corsair XMS PC3200 2-2-2-5 (LEDs) || XFX GeForce 6800GT 256MB || 2xWD 200GB SATA RAID 0 || Ultra X-Connect 500W || Coolermast Wavemaster (Black) || Sony 17" SDM-S74/B LCD || Wireless Logitech MX700 || Wireless Logitech Keyboard

Work Box: AMD Athlon 64 3500+ 930 130nm || MSI K8N Neo 2 Platinum || 1GB Corsair XMS PC3200 2-2-2-5 (Non-LED) || eVGA GeForce FX5700LE 256MB || 2xWD 200BG SATA RAID 0 || Antec True550 || Coolermaster Praetorian (Black) || Sony 17" SDM-S74/B LCD || Wireless Logitech MX700 || Wireless Logitech Keyboard

I'm not running 64bit software yet... but still fast as hell.

I also have 5 more machines (same as my work box minus keyboard, mouse, LCD, and a ASUS KV8 Motherboard instead of the MSI) setup in a testing environment.

AMD64s are great. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Dual Opteron running Solaris 10 (64 bit)! Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:38:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I have an AMD64 and P4 2.8GHz 800FSB. After trying out several distros I ended up using Gentoo for both which turned out a great choice. The AMD64 runs blazing fast and beats the crap out of the P4 in almost any benchmark.

Based on this experience my next notebook will be an AMD Turion. It might have a tiny bit of a shorter battery life but it will surly ourperform any Pentium M. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? FC3 most fo the time.
Removable SATA drive carriers, so Win2K3-64 Pro when necessary. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:03:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Boring! I've been running 64 bit hardware for a while!
Anyways, it's not my main machine, but many, many people use it. Two Alpha's (DS10L and Alpha 5/333) under OpenVMS 7.3. We also have a uVAX 3100/80 (but 32 bit, under VMS). Clustered. This can be found at http://deathrow.vistech.net. Anyones welcome to use it. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? im getting a new computer next january (2006) and its just going to be the standard winxp pro 32bit. my computer will be four years old. i dont run any software that needs more than 4 gigs of memory. until all drivers and software is multithreaded and optimized for a 64 bit os and muticore chips, 32bit is good enough for me. when longhorn Professional x64 Edition with sp2 or 3 (or a secong edition) comes out by january 2010 then ill get a 64 bit os. im on a four year replacement program. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:27:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Xeon 2.8 EMT64 runnung dual boot WinXP and Suse 9.2x86... No 64 bit OS yet. I prefer compatibility Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? It's an amd64, and it runs 64-bit gentoo. What I -really- want to do with it is install Solaris 10, but the installer reboots the machine as soon as the initial blue screen comes up. Beyond that, Gentoo on amd64 is flakier than Gentoo on 32-bit x86 chips, so for the moment, a 32 bit athlon, running Gentoo, is my primary PC. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? ..and I like it. Everything runs just fine. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? This machine has been my main machine for some time. I do have a dual wintel 1GHz machine but I have a soft spot for Sun hardware. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:38:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I'm waiting for a G5 Powerbook, then I'll consider it. Fri, 18 Mar 2005 23:03:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? AMD64. I was running Fedora X86_64 but the lack of Realplayer hurt because I was not able to get my favorite BBC radio shows. So I downgraded to i386. Speed difference is minimal because the computer is for my limited filesharing, web, email, and media services (music, video, etc). Sat, 19 Mar 2005 01:04:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I am using an AMD 64 with Gentoo and it's working beautifully. I am running under the amd64 keyword and am using a few 32 bit apps (mplayer, oo.org, firefox w/flash) under emulation. I love it! It's extremely speedy and it just works (for the most part ) Sat, 19 Mar 2005 03:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Since 1994 all my servers and worstations are 64 bit. I have only used DEC Alpha and SGI MIPS. Today i use ES45 for server and Octane2 for workstation. Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:47:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? No I don't and won't for three or four years at the very least.

I've just upgraded three machines very cheaply for Duron (Athlon XPs with less cache) processors that work extremely well, and they run just about everything you throw at them. My last upgrade was to Athlons in 2001. A company I work for has also upgraded to Pentiums and XP, and they get at least eight years service out of their hardware. 64-bit is a long way off in my mind. Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? My main machine is a DEC Alpha PWS 433au running FreeBSD 4.10. It's rock solid. Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Â… if I could afford it.

I'd be using Windows 2000 in 32-bit mode and MirOS BSD in
32-bit mode first, then port MirOS to clean 64-bit mode
afterwards. Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? yes an Amd 64_86 , running suse 9.2 linux 64bit edition Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments