“The OpenVZ project today announced its operating system-level server virtualization software technology is incorporated into Debian GNU/Linux giving users full access to OpenVZ software, which helps increase server utilization rates. At the same time, the OpenVZ project revised licensing terms for its user-level utilities under the GNU GPL license to comply with the Debian Free Software Guidelines. Also, OpenVZ software now conforms with the LSB/FHS.”
“Debian adopts OpenVZ”
No, it got uploaded to Sid :/
Xen is there too…
So what ? Sid is Debian also (for most of us it _is_ Debian), and openvz hasn’t been anywhere in Debian up to now, and now it is. So yes, it got included. And yes, Xen has been there first. Again: so what ? It’s good it’s there, that’s what matters.
Is already in Testing
http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/k/kernel-patch-open…
(Mon, 3 Apr 2006 21:38:08 +0200)
http://packages.qa.debian.org/k/kernel-patch-openvz.html
[2006-06-15] Accepted 026test009-1 in unstable (low)
Main competitor of OpenVZ is VServer.
I love OpenVZ. While Xen is the darling of free software virtualization, it just isn’t an accurate representation of the demand for virtualization capabilities. Customers want to shove more services/applications onto fewer machines. They want isolation and manageability. They want minimal overhead.
They don’t care about running several different kinds of operating systems on the same machine. Where IT customers require mixed-OS infrastructure (most do), they are often happier keeping the Windows stuff on one (group of) machine(s) and the Linux stuff on another. Why? Usually the IT personel that administer the Linux infrastructure are different from those that administer the Windows stuff. Why force multiple admins with various skill sets to adminster a single machine? Is that the way to simplify server management?
OpenVZ is clean and simple, yet impressively capable, and the utilities are very well done (especially the proprietary GUI/Web tools included with Virtuozzo). The best part is that most users will be hard pressed to notice the overhead, which is typcially around 2% of total resources. Try that with Xen.
I’ve been able to do some crazy out-there stuff with OpenVZ/Virtuozzo recently (sorry can’t talk about it), and it boggles my mind that it isn’t getting more attention from the open source community. Trust me, this is where it’s at for Linux-only virtualization. You will not be disappointed. VServer and UML don’t even come close.
Saying that VServer doesn’t come close sounds bias. It looks to me like they have the same capability from their characteristics. Now OpenVZ tools are probably better judging from your appraisal. In that sense you convienced me to try it.
However, I noticed, in this post and another, that you compare it to UML? They have almost nothing in common. I can run UML without modifying my host kernel, and in user land. That is really usefull to me. OpenVZ wouldn’t help at all in that case.
Do you work or develop for OpenVZ/Virtuozzo? Your post comes across as an advertisement for their product. Perhaps you are an astroturfer? Do you have proof that VServer doesn’t “even come close”?
Have you any proof that it does? You should make sure you know your stuff before accusing someone of being a liar.
It could just as well be someone who’s investigated the various offerings, been impressed by OpenVZ, and felt compelled to throw in their five cents. For me, something like OpenVZ or Solaris’s zones seems like a much more practical solution than full-blown virtualisation. I’m glad it’s in Debian, though at the moment I personally have no need of it.
If you must know, I work for IBM. I don’t have any business relationship with OpenVZ/Virtuozzo beyond that of a regular user. IBM, to the best of my knowledge, has no business relationship with Virtuozzo.
Furthermore, I post waaay too much on these forums to be an astroturfer for anybody. I’ve dished out criticism and praise across the board. I’ve been pro-Microsoft on occasion, and I’ve even criticized IBM at times.
I like OpenVZ. I’ve used it at work for a project that some thought couldn’t be done with virtualization. It made the project much easier than it would have been otherwise. That’s all I wanted to convey in that post.