Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 11th Mar 2006 16:59 UTC, submitted by Richard Kottmeyer
IBM IBM Germany has refuted a Groklaw report that the division has decided to migrate Windows desktops to Linux rather than upgrade them to Vista. Groklaw's story was based on statements reportedly made by an IBM sales executive in a presentation at LinuxForum 2006. This morning, Hans Rehm, of IBM Germany's Press Relations department, emailed DesktopLinux.com the following, somewhat ambiguous, statement.
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RE: Groklaw
by chemical_scum on Sat 11th Mar 2006 22:48 UTC in reply to "Groklaw"
chemical_scum
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2005-11-02

Groklaw is an appalling website; I can't imagine how anyone could take information from Groklaw verbatim without checking facts first?!

The statement by the IBM executive may be on video at:

http://www.linuxforum.dk/2006/video/LinuxForum-20060303-1230-1400-O...

I haven't had time to check it out yet.

Andreas Pleschek has not denied the statement reported in Groklaw nor does the IBM Germany Press Department statement deny that he said that.

I think Groklaw reporting is reliable as usual

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RE[2]: Groklaw
by Thom_Holwerda on Sat 11th Mar 2006 22:57 in reply to "RE: Groklaw"
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2005-06-29

And? This article says IBM is denying any already made decision on this issue-- and it's newer. In other words, they can be both right. But the IBM statement in this article is made on a later date, and hence, is their CURRENT official standpoint.

In other words, Groklaw's article is outdated.

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RE[3]: Groklaw
by chemical_scum on Sat 11th Mar 2006 23:29 in reply to "RE[2]: Groklaw"
chemical_scum Member since:
2005-11-02

This article says IBM is denying any already made decision on this issue-- and it's newer. In other words, they can be both right.

Listen Thom - Groklaw reported remarks that IBM Germany Executive Andreas Plaschek made at the end of his presentation to Linuxforum 2006. No one from IBM has denied that Andreas Plaschek made these remarks. Therefore one most conclude that the story carried by Groklaw was reliable and accurate, insomuch as they represented the views of a senior IBM Germany executive as to IBM Germany's plans for its future desktop deployments.

It may be an embarrasment to certain elements in IBM Germany that these plans were leaked. Remember Thom that corporations routinely deny their planned future actions and as you pointed out the IBM denial is a "somewhat ambiguous, statement".

Just for the record and those that don't RTFA here is Groklaw's report on Pleschek's remarks:

"At the end of the presentation, Andreas Pleschek revealed that the laptop he used for the presentation was running a pre-release of their new platform, the Open Client. It is actually a Red Hat work station with IBM's new Workplace Client, which is built in Java on top of Eclipse. Because of Eclipse, it runs on both Linux and Windows, and they have been able to reuse the C++ code in Lotus Notes for Windows to run it natively on Linux via Eclipse. Internally in IBM, for years, they have had a need to run Lotus Notes on Linux, and now they can. And they will offer it to their customers.

Workplace uses Lotus Notes for mail, calendar, etc. and Firefox as their browser. For an office suite, they use OpenOffice.org.

Andreas Pleschek also told that IBM has cancelled their contract with Microsoft as of October this year. That means that IBM will not use Windows Vista for their desktops. Beginning from July, IBM employees will begin using IBM Workplace on their new, Red Hat-based platform. Not all at once - some will keep using their present Windows versions for a while. But none will upgrade to Vista."


Edited 2006-03-11 23:37

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RE[3]: Groklaw
by chemical_scum on Sun 12th Mar 2006 00:21 in reply to "RE[2]: Groklaw"
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2005-11-02

But the IBM statement in this article is made on a later date, and hence, is their CURRENT official standpoint.

Having in my youth struggled to understand the inner meanings of statements by the British Conservative Party, the old Communist Party of the Soviet Union and the Communist Party of China, I feel that here is a need for a similar semiotic analysis of the statement of IBM Germany's Press Relations department:

"We are now in early stages of evaluating Vista. We have not made any decisions on it yet."

Interpretation: We are evaluating Vista for the purposes of supporting our client end applications on it. We have not totally ruled out some internal deployment of Vista even though some current decisions we have made may imply that this outcome is precluded.

"IBM continues to have a strong relationship with Microsoft. Our customers look to us for solutions and services on a variety of operating systems, including Windows."

Interpretation: We will sell an IBM system with Windows installed to anyone who wants to buy it, even though this may not be our preferred solution.

"As a business principle, we don't discuss our supplier contracts."

Interpretation: We do not deny that we may have cancelled or be intending not to renew contracts we have with Microsoft, pertaining to Windows and Office licences for our internal desktop deployment.

Edited 2006-03-12 00:22

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