Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 31st Mar 2006 14:37 UTC, submitted by pecisk
Novell and Ximian The lastest stable version of Novell's Evolution is now also available for Mac OS X users. "I am pleased to announce the release of Evolution-2.6 Binary release for Mac OS X. The release works on versions 10.3 and 10.4 of the Mac OS. This release also contains the exchange plugin which was not ported during the 2.4 cycle. This release is feature compatible with the GNOME-2.14 release." Downloads.
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by HopHead on Fri 31st Mar 2006 18:07 UTC
HopHead
Member since:
2006-01-31

I think the responses here are indicative of how having dual boot windows and windows vitualization on the mac will not harm Mac applications availability. Most OSX users dont even want to use perfectly fine and fully, completely and as thoroughly NATIVE as can be X11 applicaitons under OSX. Theres no way the majority of people are going to dual boot or fire up an instance of Windows unless there is absolutely no other way.

I personally enjoy having access to X11 apps and I use some (bluefish and gimp) daily. But I've straddled the Mac/unix fence since the early 90's. I do think Apple could integrate X11 a bit better into OSX so that interoperation is relatively seamless. In Tiger X11 is an optional install (though, unlike classic, it is included on the install disks). I'd like to see X11 automatically installed and more popular apps packaged similar to Gimp.app to make installations less intrusive. Non-tech users simply arent going to mess with fink or darwin ports, no matter how easy they are to use.

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snozzberry Member since:
2005-11-14

My biggest beef with X11 is that there isn't patch code in it to understand dfonts. Some ports of OSS like Inkscape are smart enough to figure it out, but OOo isn't and requires you to run Fondu before installing OOo (making a wasteful TTF copy of the dfonts).

Apple doesn't have much excuse for not optimizing/overhauling X11 to the point where more of its software behaves natively. A preference to move menu bars to the top of the screen and transparently translate their events back and forth would be a good start.

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rayiner Member since:
2005-07-06

Apple cannot transparently move the menus to the top of the screen, because menus aren't implemented at the X11 level, they are implemented at the toolkit level. I don't think GTK+ even creates a window for the menubar --- its just some region of the X11 window that only the toolkit knows about.

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