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Your such well thought out highly intelligent comments sure haven't demonstrated any knowledge of the difference between the two.

Let's get some stuff straight here...

1. What you see in that screenshot is the toolkit's theme, not "the toolkit". You can make a hideously ugly theme for a perfectly good graphical toolkit - there are ugly, garish color themes for Windows' GUI toolkit, you know, I've seen them. So yes, it is the theme you're raving about, not the toolkit.

2. The screenshot you link to is hideously outdated and uses a nondefault theme. Current default looks like this, admittedly rather bland but easily changeable:

http://frugalware.org/~laci/screenshots/GNOME-default.png

3. You can't judge an operating system by what it looks like. Until recently Solaris looked like crap courtesy of CDE, and OpenVMS still looks like crap. They are of course both extremely well-programmed and reliable operating systems. And Win2k3's Luna interface looks like garbage but guess what's under the hood?

4. The above all point strong toward your not having a clue what you're talking about. If your knowledge doesn't cover something, I strongly suggest that you don't rant about it, because the people who do have some knowledge of it will have your ass.

5. Your username screams "spammer", and your posts are invariably trollish in nature, resorting to insults rather than logical arguments. You don't seem capable of contributing anything useful to any topic.

I think that now might be a very good time for you to shut up and leave...

Thank you! I mean the guy raves I am talking about icons and themes when I dont know what else a screenshot is suppose to show?

Definately a troll.... not even a good troll. What kind of trolls are we turning out these days that they cant offer some reasonable type of arguement, however made up and poorly supporrted. I blame the troll schools, some blame the troll parents, something is certainly failing the trolls.