Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 6th Jul 2006 10:41 UTC
Features, Office Microsoft is giving in to the unrelenting pressure to be more open, particularly with regard to its Office Open XML file format and interoperability with the Open Document Format alternative. The company will announce July 6 that it has set up an open-source project to create a series of tools that allow translation between the OpenXML format and the ODF format, and which will be developed with partners. The Open XML Translator project, as it is known, will be posted on SourceForge, the open-source software development Web site.
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RE[3]: OH COME ON!!!
by MollyC on Thu 6th Jul 2006 22:39 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: OH COME ON!!!"
MollyC
Member since:
2006-07-04

I like how you guys keep moving the goal posts.

First, you beg Microsoft to add ODF support. Then when they do, you whine because you think they'll "extend" it or it'll "work like CRAP". I guess the demands that Microsoft add ODF support were disingenuous to begin with (you never thought Microsoft would actually do it, and now that they have, you don't know what arguments to make against it, so you grasp at straws).

How will this "work like CRAP" when its a BDS project that OSS devs will be contributing to (Microsoft isn't writing the code)?

BTW, did you know that OO.o has already "extended" ODF for their own purposes?

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RE[4]: OH COME ON!!!
by MechR on Thu 6th Jul 2006 23:28 in reply to "RE[3]: OH COME ON!!!"
MechR Member since:
2006-01-11

"BTW, did you know that OO.o has already "extended" ODF for their own purposes?"

AAMOF, I haven't heard. Linky?

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RE[5]: OH COME ON!!!
by Jemm on Fri 7th Jul 2006 08:07 in reply to "RE[4]: OH COME ON!!!"
Jemm Member since:
2005-07-25

"One area I'm going to be interested to follow is how to map features that aren't specified in the ODF spec. OpenOffice has actually made the decision to extend the spec in ways that don't actually appear to be allowed (like with numbering formats), and I'm not sure if that's the right way to go. "

http://blogs.msdn.com/brian_jones/archive/2006/07/05/657510.aspx

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RE[4]: OH COME ON!!!
by Shkaba on Fri 7th Jul 2006 19:47 in reply to "RE[3]: OH COME ON!!!"
Shkaba Member since:
2006-06-22

I like how you keep on supporting MS even when they shift their positions completely. Demands for MS to implement ODF support can not disingenious for the simple reason that if an ISO accepted standard is adopted by all software manufacturers the only competing qualities to distinguish competing products would be reduced to the price and reliability. Guess who sucks in that area. To say "I will support ODF" and then turn around and "start a project" for somebody else to work on and throw some money at it before turning your back to it ,is VERY disingenious to say the least. This looks more like bying some time (and time is what MS seems to need lots of, lately) and appearing to support an ISO approved standard until they can be in a position to submit their own request for standard approval.

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RE[5]: OH COME ON!!!
by sappyvcv on Fri 7th Jul 2006 19:55 in reply to "RE[4]: OH COME ON!!!"
sappyvcv Member since:
2005-07-06

What's wrong with changing positions?

"More and more of our customers have been asking for it, so we are going to make an effort to support it now."

What is wrong with that?

See, if they had started the project and worked on it themselves, people would make accusations of embrace/extend/extinguish, half-assed effort, etc.

So what's better than simply financially supporting an OPEN SOURCE project to do it?

I just can't understand how you're finding negative here. Again, it's open source. It's the BSD license. Anyone can take the code as it is now and continue developing it.

Christ.

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