Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 16th Jul 2006 20:16 UTC, submitted by jake tate
Linspire Kevin Carmony of Linspire/Freespire has announced that the first beta of Freespire has been released earlier than anticipated. Get it from the download page. According to Carmony, this release includes out-of-the-box support for proprietary formats such as .mp3 and WMV, plug-and-play support for Ati and nVIDIA cards without user intervention, Click-N-Run, and much more.
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LEECH
by Moulinneuf on Mon 17th Jul 2006 07:42 UTC in reply to "freeee"
Moulinneuf
Member since:
2005-07-06

I have a word for people like you : LEECH.

You dont contribute.
You dont test anything.
You dont pay for anything.

Linspire should be rewarded by you by at least testing there latest offering and you reporting to them where you see something they could offer a FREE and working solution.

Commercial Distribution are not the problem , we need them to contribute GPL code , have full time paid developpers and make working solution for the majority who dont.

Its Free software , not Leech software. Freedom come at a price.

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RE: LEECH
by deanlinkous on Mon 17th Jul 2006 08:04 in reply to "LEECH"
deanlinkous Member since:
2006-06-19

You know me so well, already.

btw - I WAS speaking of freedom and not price but considering freespire has already stated the distro will be without cost I cant imagine how using it would be leeching. If you had read and actually thought about my post then it would of been fairly obvious that the FREE i spoke of was freedom. As stated, what they have rolled out is nothing more or less than linspire. Some new tweaks and adjustments and no cost for the beat but thats about it.

I didn't say anything was wrong with being a commercial distro. But if all linspire was going to be was a commercial distro then there wasnt any need to start the freespire project was there? And there is a difference in being JUST a commercial distro and being a good community player that just happens to be a commercial distro also.

I dont contribute much, that sadly is true. I help on forums. I come up with little hacks. I hope to roll out a project that will make debian a little easier for those new to it but I wont swear it will ever happen.I do what I can and sadly it is limited. Got any ideas?

I test all kinds of stuff. I install like crazy and if I find something I can truly reproduce and that hasn't been reported already then I send notice to the proper person. I don't rant and rave about the bugs I find or anything. Sadly, I dont find much to complain about. Unlike some others.

I pay for lots of stuff. Anything I want or need that is a reasonable cost. No I do not pay for something (usually) if there is a no-cost version and a for-cost version whent he no-cost version suites me just fine. That being said I usually contribute a few dollars to whichever distro I truly USE and not just try out.

I will contribute a -1 for your post since you are attacking me personally.

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RE[2]: LEECH
by Moulinneuf on Mon 17th Jul 2006 09:05 in reply to "RE: LEECH"
Moulinneuf Member since:
2005-07-06

"You know me so well, already. "

Yes , your nothing special , sorry.

"I WAS speaking of freedom and not price"

So was I , but the fact that freedom come at a real price is lost on people like you ;-)

"I cant ... but thats about it. "

You do know your previous text is still visible and readable :

http://www.osnews.com/permalink.php?news_id=15207&comment_id=143706

I just hope they hurry and put the FREE in FREESPIRE! ;) Until then they have just rolled out a different linspire IMO.

When I see them offering a truly "free" distro is when I will be interested and I will feel like they are really trying to be more than a commercial distro.


BTW Leecher use things , they just dont contribute , they dont pay for anything and they dont test anything and give report on it. I forgot they wine a lot but never do anything to change what they complain about.

"I didn't say anything was wrong with being a commercial distro."

You really did not say much.

"But if all ... freespire project was there?"

If you dont understand the why there was a need , I dont think the exact reason would be of much of help to you.

"And there is ... distro also. "

Wich is the problem Linspire had and still as.

"dont contribute ... is limited. Got any ideas? "

Join Freespire , make your contribution part of it and make Freespire the best Free distribution it can be ... Instead of starting Debian project 800 000 994.

"I test all ... complain about. Unlike some others. "

You did this for freespire ?

"I pay for lots ... not just try out. "

Too bad not everyone is like you , distribution would be rich if everyone did the same.

I might have been too strong on the categorization based on your previous post and I apologize for it , no its nothing personnal , I am annoying and insulting to everyone equally ;-)

For me the simple fact that Linspire as a free version is a great victory in itself , and that they are aiming at being developped in a more open way is great too , and I think we should reward and encourage them by testing and helping them be more free instead of demanding that they be fully free before supporting them.

In Linspire case its a great effort on there part.

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RE: LEECH
by leech on Tue 18th Jul 2006 14:29 in reply to "LEECH"
leech Member since:
2006-01-10

Hey, I take offense at that! Actually I contribute mostly to Linux in general by helping out new people, or by converting Windows users. I gave Freespire a look last night, with the exception that it uses KDE, I liked it. It was overall a good experience. Definitely something that is very user friendly and easy to install. If you'd like, you can see how many posts I have on the Ubuntu forums if you still think I'm a leech, not to mention that I also wrote a great howto on Neverwinter Nights, that many people have found useful.

Actually I know you weren't talking to me anyhow, just thought it was funny ;)

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