Linked by Eugenia Loli-Queru on Thu 17th Aug 2006 02:54 UTC, submitted by george
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y OpenSolaris isn't a true open-source project, but rather a "facade," because Sun Microsystems doesn't share control of it with outsiders, executives from rival IBM say.
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SEJeff
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2005-11-05

What community has IBM built?

Did you know that IBM wrote and released the Eclipse java IDE in an effort to "eclipse" Sun's netbeans with an open source IDE? I guess you didn't and Eclipse is pretty much the de-facto industry standard java IDE now.

Also, I'm not going to count the fact that Linux is "enterprise ready" due to large contributions from IBM and Silicon Graphics. The scalability improvements in the 2.6 kernel are largely due to these two companies. IBM has contributed WAY more to open source than Sun has or likely ever will.

http://news.com.com/2100-1001-249750.html

Granted, Sun has spent millions on usability research for the gnome desktop and they wrote the initial version of it's famous Human Interface Guidelines, but they still don't match big blue.

Sun sees Linux as a competitor (which it is) and they created the CDDL so that Linux can not benefit from Sun "open sourcing" it's code. Also, IBM has donated more patents to the Patent Commons project than any other single company. Don't believe me?
http://www.patentcommons.org/commons/patentsearch.php?formType=resu...

I do agree with you on AIX, but Sun isn't near as "open source" as it's propoganda machine wants you to believe. Sun took text book marketing from Microsoft and turned it on other companies like HP, IBM, and Dell. Remember the ridiculous statement made recently by a Sun exec about how HP-UX should be open sourced and integrated with Solaris because it wasn't any good? HP is *STILL* leading Sun in Unix server sales, but they keep quiet about details like that.

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binarycrusader Member since:
2005-07-06

Also, I'm not going to count the fact that Linux is "enterprise ready" due to large contributions from IBM and Silicon Graphics. The scalability improvements in the 2.6 kernel are largely due to these two companies. IBM has contributed WAY more to open source than Sun has or likely ever will.

Care to back that up with numbers? In terms of sheer code, SUN has contributed more to the Open Source community than IBM. Unless you're going to argue about who they contributed to, in which case, that's a subjective qualification.

Sun sees Linux as a competitor (which it is) and they created the CDDL so that Linux can not benefit from Sun "open sourcing" it's code.

No, they did not. That is pure speculation with NO proof whatsoever. The GPL was one of the licenses considered during the licensing decision process. It was rejected because it did not meet the needs or qualifications of the project.

Granted, Sun has spent millions on usability research for the gnome desktop and they wrote the initial version of it's famous Human Interface Guidelines, but they still don't match big blue.

How? It's nice to say things without proving them. Does IBM have an entire dedicated desktop team that contributes on a regular basis to the GNOME project? What's that? They don't? I'm shocked! (/sarcasm)

Also, IBM has donated more patents to the Patent Commons project than any other single company. Don't believe me?

...and a lot of those patents as were even pointed out by others a few years ago are not even applicable to most software.

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