One of the worst kept secrets in the Linux industry was revealed at LinuxWorld this week with the announcement that a group of Debian-based Linux vendors have formed an alliance to promote the enterprise use of the Debian GNU/Linux package.
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Member since:A "dcca" without Debian? I think not. I don't care who's starting it, either. The goals of these guys aren't the same as Debian's and I see no need for Debian to join, or to embrace or support this movement. As the previous poster indicated, it's all just vapourwarish PR stunts anyways.
You're obviously correct. Clearly Ian Murdoch, the founder of Debian, is trying to destroy it. And just as clearly, it's a really bad idea for Debian-derived distros to base themselves on a common core, with the idea of remaining compatible with each other and Debian. I mean, being able to take a Debian package and run it unchanged on Xandros or Linspire or LinEx - that's just a terrible, terrible idea. Don't these guys understand the Linux tradition, that every single distro be completely incompatible with every other? What are these evil people thinking??
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Member since:2005-07-08
Quote: "I mean, being able to take a Debian package and run it unchanged on Xandros or Linspire or LinEx - that's just a terrible, terrible idea."
Umm. Well, *if* these 3rd party Debian offsprings bothered to use the *actual* Debian packages, they wouldn't have a problem then would they? They *are* the ones taking and bastardising non Debian packages from 3rd parties, and then bitching about compatibility with Debian proper and its packages. That's *not* Debian's problem. I have no pity for these types of distros that sponge off Debian and then complain that they can't have compatability with Debian. They are their own worse enemies.
If they want to have you-beaut "up to date" Debian based distros, with up to date packages, fine. But then it's up to them to synch their packages, and develop them, and do all the security related stuff, and host the damn .debs, not Debian. Debian doesn't have to have anything to do with it all.
I'd rather Debian have nothing to do with this "commercialisation" etc. I want to see Debian stay as a community project, with the same ideals, and not have some business conglomerate interfere (or attempt to interfere).
Debian has problems, we all know that. It needs to drop arches, and it needs to speed up its release program. The installer needs real work imho, it's very amateurish and unpolished. These things will happen with time.
Dave
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2005-07-08
A "dcca" without Debian? I think not. I don't care who's starting it, either. The goals of these guys aren't the same as Debian's and I see no need for Debian to join, or to embrace or support this movement. As the previous poster indicated, it's all just vapourwarish PR stunts anyways.
As to no Ubuntu - Ubuntu has compatibility problems with Debian proper, so how could you even justify including it?
Dave