Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 19th Oct 2006 21:10 UTC
BeOS & Derivatives Michael Lotz, of Tracker.NewFS, SVG, Haiku USB, Qemu, and countless other cool-things-to-have fame has checked in Haiku's first wireless network driver, for the Intel Pro Wireless 2100. This chipset, which inhabits nearly all early Centrino-badged devices, is amongst the more common wireless hardware found in recent computers. It works on r5 as well.
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RE: How about on BeBits?
by jonas.kirilla on Fri 20th Oct 2006 09:11 UTC in reply to "How about on BeBits?"
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Yes, you could. However, if an essential part of the system (an audio/video codec, a driver, a filesystem, ...) has to be downloaded separately, the first impression of a simple and hassle-free desktop suffers. Ease/simplicity/speed/size vis-a-vis Linux/Windows/MacOSX is important to get people hooked on Haiku. But of course, a separate download is better than nothing at all.

Lots of computer literate people can potentially get around the problem of a missing network driver, downloading the appropriate one by some other means, but if you're totally new to Haiku...

* You might be uncertain as to why the net doesn't work. Whether the driver is missing or the error is of some other nature. Linux, Windows, MacOS X (and to some degree the BSDs) come with a lot of drivers, out of the box or as online updates. I believe that most of the intended Haiku audience (beyond early adopters) will be unaccustomed to thinking about device drivers. People expect more now.

* You might be unaware of the BeOS history and backwards compatibility of Haiku and of the primary site for BeOS downloads,, which is not yet explicitly Haiku oriented. If you do find a device driver that might work, with multiple versions, for BeOS, Zeta, Dano, BeOS+BONE, ... Newcomers will be confused.

* You might not know the exact chip used on that specific hardware of yours, and drivers usually target chips rather than specific models of a product. If you're lucky the driver you need provides a list of supported products.

I had almost forgotten this great site:

I suppose Haiku will bundle any essential and compatible BeOS R5 3'rd party components that have not yet been replaced, if these are allowed to be distributed freely.

Edited 2006-10-20 09:17

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RE[2]: How about on BeBits?
by adkilla on Fri 20th Oct 2006 09:46 in reply to "RE: How about on BeBits?"
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I think the issue would be more of people not being able to install it on the PCs becoz they are missing some core drivers to do the install the first place. For example your system requires a certain kind of IDE or SCSI driver not included in the OS release. The driver is available but you will need to be able to boot up the system to install which you can't because your IDE/SCSI chipset is not supported. This chicken and egg situation would be the most frustrating.


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RE[2]: How about on BeBits?
by traderjb on Fri 20th Oct 2006 16:58 in reply to "RE: How about on BeBits?"
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Wow, thanks! Perhaps I could upload my broadcom drivers, or would that be some sort of violation?

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RE[3]: How about on BeBits?
by jonas.kirilla on Fri 20th Oct 2006 17:24 in reply to "RE[2]: How about on BeBits?"
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I hate to put a damper on your enthusiasm, but the network device drivers for Windows are useless to Haiku as long as there's no NDIS wrapper for them in Haiku. If someone makes such a thing, by adapting the one from Linux or the one from FreeBSD, distribution of repackaged(?) device drivers for Windows may still not be entirely legal. It might be a violation of the EULAs or copyright. I don't know, I'm not a lawyer. :[

I suppose though that Haiku, inc could, if time and resources permit, talk to hardware makers and ask permission to bundle their binaries meant for Windows.

Edited 2006-10-20 17:31

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