Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 26th Oct 2006 16:21 UTC, submitted by thebluesgnr
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu The Ubuntu team announced the release of Ubuntu 6.10, codenamed 'Edgy Eft'. Highlights for the desktop include GNOME 2.16, Firefox 2.0, OpenOffice.org 2.0.4, Gaim 2.0 and two new applications, F-Spot and Tomboy. This release also features a pre-release of the upcoming LTSP-5, as well as the usual updates of the base system, with GCC 4.1.1, Glibc 2.4 and Linux 2.6.17. There's a screenshot tour already, while Mark Shuttleworth commented on the news concerning Oracle and Linux. Update: The first review in what will probably become a long list. Update II: Kubuntu 6.10 is released as well.
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RE[2]: non-free software
by manmist on Thu 26th Oct 2006 20:22 UTC in reply to "RE: non-free software"
manmist
Member since:
2005-12-18

No... I guess they value having peoples hardware actually work too much?

Thats a poor excuse for falsely advertising support for Free software while discretely installing non-free drivers without user's selection.

Non-free kernel drivers are considered illegal by many kernel developers too.

http://www.kroah.com/log/images/ols_2006_keynote_12.jpg

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RE[3]: non-free software
by Lunitik on Thu 26th Oct 2006 22:08 in reply to "RE[2]: non-free software"
Lunitik Member since:
2005-08-07

Actually, they are not deselected by default, they are simply there for you to use.

Yes, I understand many consider this to be illegal, however I'd argue that it is better to present the best Linux can be rather than explaining to someone that doesn't care "your graphics card doesn't work because we're license zealots"...

Surely its a better approach to show what it can be, then explain things once they get comfortable?

Either way, you're not forced to use it, so it doesn't really effect you. Let me point out however, Ubuntu is the most popular distro right now... why do you think that is?

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RE[3]: non-free software
by AlexandreAM on Thu 26th Oct 2006 23:07 in reply to "RE[2]: non-free software"
AlexandreAM Member since:
2006-02-06

Although I don't agree with the parent I had to give one of my votes to help modding him up.

Are we at OSNews (the readers) just too dumb that we have to mod down everything we don't agree with ?

Gee... get a life, you crazy-modders.

The guy says something, does not offend anyone, does not go off topic, gives no wrong information and still there is some crazy guy out there trying to mod it out of sight just so his ideas are not propagated ?

...

most irritating.

Alexandre Moreira.

PS: Yeah, deep in my heart I know the parents text is not wrong... but hell I want my hardware to behave as I thought it would when I purchased it.

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RE[4]: non-free software
by cptnapalm on Fri 27th Oct 2006 08:22 in reply to "RE[3]: non-free software"
cptnapalm Member since:
2006-08-09

We received our mod schooling at Slashdot.

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RE[3]: non-free software
by aquila_deus on Fri 27th Oct 2006 03:56 in reply to "RE[2]: non-free software"
aquila_deus Member since:
2005-10-02

Non-free kernel drivers are considered illegal by many kernel developers too.

That's just FUD. GPL doesn't not forbid it being used by non-free softwares - I remember (from some book) that distributing object files and allowing them being linked by users themselves (and to choose whether to use GPL'ed lib or not) is enough to workaround the problem.

As far as I know, drivers such as nvidia's and oss/commercial's are perfectly legal, thus there is no reason not to install them for users who have problem with your holy open-source counterparts. So those who're unhappy about this could either try to sue them or STFU and stop scaring people.

I'm an ordinary linux user and I got an on-board via8237 audio chip and nvidia fx5100 card, and a non-branded dvd writer. If I choose to use open-source drivers, I'd have to tolerate high-frequency noises 24hrs a day, and have no 3D or 2D render acceleration, and cannot burn any DVD by use my DVD writer at all.

If that happens, I'd just dump linux and get windows back.

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RE[4]: non-free software
by Ookaze on Fri 27th Oct 2006 15:24 in reply to "RE[3]: non-free software"
Ookaze Member since:
2005-11-14

That's just FUD. GPL doesn't not forbid it being used by non-free softwares - I remember (from some book) that distributing object files and allowing them being linked by users themselves (and to choose whether to use GPL'ed lib or not) is enough to workaround the problem

There's no problem in this case, because they're not distributing the compiled module, and you won't distribute it either.

As far as I know, drivers such as nvidia's and oss/commercial's are perfectly legal, thus there is no reason not to install them for users who have problem with your holy open-source counterparts. So those who're unhappy about this could either try to sue them or STFU and stop scaring people

Distributing the compiled binaries is illegal. What you say is stupid : people should warn others that there's a risk of them being sued.
You'd rather these people STFU, that's sad.

I'm an ordinary linux user and I got an on-board via8237 audio chip and nvidia fx5100 card, and a non-branded dvd writer. If I choose to use open-source drivers, I'd have to tolerate high-frequency noises 24hrs a day, and have no 3D or 2D render acceleration, and cannot burn any DVD by use my DVD writer at all

This is plain FUD !
The high-frequency problem is fixed (AFAIK), there's 2D acceleration for FX5100 cards and a non-branded DVD writer doesn't prevent you to burn DVD (there's just a chance that it won't be as PnP as it should).

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