Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 23rd Dec 2006 00:48 UTC, submitted by dumbkiwi
KDE This is a response to the article yesterday on the progress of GNOME and KDE. Aaron Seigo, a lead KDE developer, sets out the current state of progress with KDE 4, pointing out that KDE 4 is on track for a release in mid 2007. "Thom points to a quote from me that our goal is to have a 4.0 ready sometime in the first half of next year. That gives us until sometime in June and I'm still thinking we can make it."
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RE[3]: Looking forward to KDE4
by melkor on Sat 23rd Dec 2006 03:19 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Looking forward to KDE4"
melkor
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2006-12-16

Just remember though that Koffice has a LOT less developers working on it than OpenOffice. Furthermore, Sun backs OpenOffice, there's no real financial backing for Koffice in a similar vein. And, probably, Sun has more information on office document compatibility in its hands than the KDE team, especially since Sun is still quite a big player in the market.

Dave

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RE[4]: Looking forward to KDE4
by smitty on Sat 23rd Dec 2006 03:30 in reply to "RE[3]: Looking forward to KDE4"
smitty Member since:
2005-10-13

And, probably, Sun has more information on office document compatibility in its hands than the KDE team, especially since Sun is still quite a big player in the market.

I'm not so sure about that - as far as I can tell, MS never released any info about it's closed binary formats, so both are starting from scratch. There's no question that OOo does this a lot better though. Of course, both were heavily involved in creating ODF so neither should have much of an advantage there.

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RE[5]: Looking forward to KDE4
by porcel on Sat 23rd Dec 2006 14:57 in reply to "RE[4]: Looking forward to KDE4"
porcel Member since:
2006-01-28

Openoffice is not starting from scratch. Openoffice used to be Staroffice which as been around for close to twenty years in one form or another.

So, Openoffice starts from a mature, aging and complex codebase. Additionally, as part of the Sun-Microsoft agreement, Sun does get access, at least that's what we were told, to Microsoft file formats for interoperability purposes. Admittedly, nothing truly revolutionary has happened on this end so it's hard to judge the effectiveness of the agreement.

Koffice is young,truly built from scratch, incredibly fast and needs time to get to the point that you can use it as a drop-in replacement for eithe MS Office or Openoffice, but it does a lot things already that neither of the above do particularly well.

In my opinion, koffice will be the long-term contender and choice of the free desktop as its architecture is cleaner, easier to learn and extend, but it will take a while to get there.

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RE[5]: Looking forward to KDE4
by kaiwai on Sun 24th Dec 2006 02:19 in reply to "RE[4]: Looking forward to KDE4"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

I'm not so sure about that - as far as I can tell, MS never released any info about it's closed binary formats, so both are starting from scratch. There's no question that OOo does this a lot better though. Of course, both were heavily involved in creating ODF so neither should have much of an advantage there.

But OpenOffice.org/StarOffice is a much older product than Koffice - easily older than 10 years old, and the support for Microsofts document format is alot older as well.

As Microsofts format has envolved - they've never created a new format with each release, just evolved it - so has OpenOffice.org/StarOffice built on previous experiences.

What I hope, however, is some focus by Koffice to use the information from Novell to get OpenXML supported - sure, it might not be the defacto format of now, but when it does become, they would have had a filter mature enough to handle files created in Office.

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