Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 1st Feb 2007 14:41 UTC, submitted by Oliver
FreeBSD "Linux has a large amount of device drivers for hardware not supported on FreeBSD, especially USB devices. Not rarely, such drivers have been written based on information derived by protocol sniffing, reverse engineering and the like. This makes the code highly undocumented, and renders the porting effort extremely error prone. To help with this task, I decided to start working on an emulation layer that would let us recompile the linux source code on FreeBSD, and provide a sufficiently complete emulation of the kernel APIs so that device drivers (or at least certain classes) could be used without modifications to their source code."
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RE[2]: Miss-information
by Moulinneuf on Thu 1st Feb 2007 17:31 UTC in reply to "RE: Miss-information"
Moulinneuf
Member since:
2005-07-06

More Distortion of reality by the author of this slander and libel , what a surprise ...

First , I ain't a zealot because I ain't trying to kill you because your idea and mine disagree. I have not killed anyone for anything in my entire life.

Second , I do care about Open Source , I prefer and support and fund GPL and Free Software , because its real Open Source , thats why I support the GPL. I don't support BSD because I personally know for a fact that its not Open Source *all* the time. Its the reason why I call it a traitor license.

That is not a fact most USB code come from GNU/Linux developer working on making it work. That's where the real difference is , FreeBSd as no one doing the same job , due to lack of support from there community , lack of funding , lack of commercial support.

" you've forgotten to mention Linux and it's viral
GPL."

No , the GPL is not viral , it does not spread on its own. Also there is no BSD code inside the GPL that is not accessible or changed to a license that dont permit BSD to use it. I was not clear enough apparently so now you cant twist reality to your lies.

Its not off-topic , its miss-information by you , corrected by the commenter.

I know you don't get it at all , but its not a magic hype secret how GNU/Linux get things done. You just refuse to face reality and do the same , thats why GNU/Linux is going forward and you lag behind your own derivative.

Edited 2007-02-01 17:41

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RE[3]: Miss-information
by bsd_geek on Thu 1st Feb 2007 19:11 in reply to "RE[2]: Miss-information"
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2006-05-04

" you've forgotten to mention Linux and it's viral GPL."

No , the GPL is not viral , it does not spread on its own. Also there is no BSD code inside the GPL that is not accessible or changed to a license that dont permit BSD to use it. I was not clear enough apparently so now you cant twist reality to your lies.


Moulin-goof,

Yes, it is viral and everyone knows it. Many just don't want to admit it. You know, people like you.

How's it viral? If you use GPL code in your software, then your software needs to be GPL'd.

Don't be such a douche bag either. Just because people use the term 'viral' it doesn't mean that they believe the code will infect other code on it's own. It's a term used loosely. It means the code will 'infect' other code when used.

Anyway, I'm done with that.

I believe that GPL code has been used in the FreeBSD kernel before, but only as a module. I think there is some sort of violation if GPL code is compiled into the kernel. I think this was true for certain audio drivers awhile back ago. It's been awhile so I've forgotten.

Personally, I like OpenBSD's route of making everything BSD licensed. It's kinda crazy, but helpful. Yes, even helpful to those who just want to make a fast buck on someone else's code. That's the freedom of the BSD license. ;)

What I don't get is why do so many people bitch about the BSD license and not the MIT license. They're quite similar. They're pretty much equivalent. It's probably because so man Linux machines run X Windows and they don't want to step on their toes.

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RE[4]: Miss-information
by FooBarWidget on Thu 1st Feb 2007 19:33 in reply to "RE[3]: Miss-information"
FooBarWidget Member since:
2005-11-11

"How's it viral? If you use GPL code in your software, then your software needs to be GPL'd."

Uhm, no. The other code doesn't force me to GPL my own code. I choose to GPL my code. If I don't want my code to be GPL'ed then I don't use the other code. It's as simple as that.

Even if I "accidentally" put GPL'ed code in my own code, then my own code still isn't GPL'ed. It is a license violation and copyright violation however. The owner of the code can sue me, and I'll have to compensate him or remove the GPL'ed code from my codebase, but my own codebase still isn't automatically GPL'ed.

What are you complaining about? If I take source code from Microsoft Office and paste it inside my own software then that would be a copyright violation. Yet nobody's complaining that closed source code is "viral" or "destructive" or whatever.

Edited 2007-02-01 19:39

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RE[4]: Miss-information
by Moulinneuf on Thu 1st Feb 2007 22:21 in reply to "RE[3]: Miss-information"
Moulinneuf Member since:
2005-07-06

"Moulin-goof,"

Its Moulinneuf , its my real name.

"Yes, it is viral and everyone knows it"

No , its not. Care to see me in court with your real name with it ? So that I can make some money of you ? Because the viral effect nonsense was tried and discarded with prejudice in a court of law. Ask your lawyer to search for "Daniel Wallace" he tried a couple of attack on the GPL and got them all trown out of court with prejudice , the viral effect was part of one of them.

"Anyway, I'm done with that."

No , I am sure you will repeat that lie again.

The problem you have is that you don't know what viral is and loosely don't really count in reality or in a court of law.

BTW read my other post I also suggested that X should be made GPL so that more funds and support be given to it.

Don't worry about BSD , I am on the case ;-)

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