Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 2nd Feb 2007 11:30 UTC, submitted by anonymous
Novell and Ximian When Novell and Microsoft announced their unlikely partnership, a part of the arrangement that got little attention at the time was that they'd create a joint research facility, where both company's technical experts would collaborate on new joint software solutions. Now, they're staffing up.
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RE[2]: ms/novell
by kaiwai on Fri 2nd Feb 2007 18:28 UTC in reply to "RE: ms/novell"
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And how is licencing and paying a fee for Mp3 any less evil than having to do the same thing with wma/wmv? considering that wma/wmv are merely mpeg4 derivatives, I don't quite understand the purpose of your anti-Microsoft agenda.

For me, I use neither, I prefer using ogg and other technologies that don't crush me, and my ability to move to other operating systems easily.

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RE[3]: ms/novell
by zztaz on Fri 2nd Feb 2007 20:24 in reply to "RE[2]: ms/novell"
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The MPEG cartel wants to have a monopoly over multimedia formats, and that's legal. If they succeed because they offer the best combination of technology and license terms, that's fine.

Microsoft wants the same thing, and is free to compete for it on the same terms. But there's a catch.

Microsoft controls the dominant desktop, to the point where they have monopoly power. That's legal. But they can't use control of the desktop to gain control over new monopolies.

Monopolies aren't illegal. Abuse of the power of a monopoly is. The MPEG cartel didn't use some other monopoly to make their formats popular. They competed.

My agenda is to counter abuse of power, and abuse of monopoly power in particular. Microsoft has a lot of power, and a history of abusing it. I'm not anti-Microsoft, I'm anti-abuse. I'm opposed to certain actions by Microsoft or any other company. I give Microsoft credit where credit is deserved, and scorn where scorn is deserved.

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RE[4]: ms/novell
by kaiwai on Sat 3rd Feb 2007 00:59 in reply to "RE[3]: ms/novell"
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So, wouldn't it be best to have Microsoft licence their codecs under a non-discriminatory licence as to ensure that they don't price 'compatible implementations' out of the market?

I have no worries about Microsoft coming up with new technologies; superior technologies than the MPEG cartel, but what I would like to see is Microsoft make it superior than MPEG's licence; allow free opensource implementations not have to pay licences; those who use it in commercial products pay a token amount per unit shipped - a licence that helps opensource projects and is acceptable to ISV's.

Edited 2007-02-03 01:10

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