Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 17th Feb 2007 18:59 UTC, submitted by elsewhere
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y "Some bad blood between Linus Torvalds and GNOME developers is flaring up again. Previously, Torvalds has said that Linux users should switch to KDE instead of GNOME because of the GNOME team's 'users are idiots' mentality. Now he has 'put his money where his mouth is' by submitting patches to GNOME in order to have it behave as he likes. This week, on the Linux Foundation's (formerly OSDL) Desktop Architects mailing list, the two sides are going mano a mano." Can I interest you in a pair of these and these?
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I use Gnome
by mkone on Sat 17th Feb 2007 20:45 UTC
mkone
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2006-03-14

And I think people make too much of the fact that Gnome does not provide configuration options. I actually think this is a red herring.

When was the last time you used a windows application that asked you which multimedia engine to use. What the heck is a multimedia engine. (I know what it is of course, but why should the user care). This is not a gripe against KDE, banshee allows you to use different multimedia engines too. Is this really a useful option, or is the real problem that Gstreamer needs a bit more attention. Or do you make Xine an option. Imagine telling a former windows user that if he can't play his audio file with Banshee, he should go to the preferences page and change the multimedia engine to Xine, or Helix or NMM or Arts. He will look at you like you are mad.

That is not really useful functionality, and good riddance when the developers remove it. People should fix GStreamer if there is a problem with the multimedia performance. That is what the Gnome developers are saying. If something comes up and is working better than GStreamer, then switch to using that instead. The user shouldn't have to know what the multimedia system is?

RE: I use Gnome
by superstoned on Sun 18th Feb 2007 11:34 in reply to "I use Gnome"
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2005-07-07

yeah, switch to another MM system. But then two apps probably can't play sounds at the same time, so if you don't support two MM systems (the old and new) you're in trouble, things stop working.

Better go the Phonon way like KDE did, 'just works' in case things change...

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